RIP, Editor & Publisher magazine

[OnTheRiver]

http://www.poynter.org/column.asp?id=45&aid=174719

 

[2muchcoffeeman]

Holy ****.

 

[Moderator1]

Wow. That ain't good.

 

[steveu]

The big question is this: Will E&P stick around as an online entity, much like Poynter and Romenesko? That wasn't answered here. If not, then you're right: holy ****!

 

[funky_mountain]

not surprising. i have fond memories of flipping through the classifieds when i was in college, looking at job openings and picturing myself working at whatever paper had an opening in sports.

 

[Frank_Ridgeway]

My dad always had a stack of E&Ps on a table next to the toilet, so I grew up seeing the mag and thumbing through it even before I had any interest in journalism as a career. Back then, the front cover was dominated by an advertisement -- IIRC, usually Scripps Howard touting one of its newspapers.

I was an intermittent subscriber. When I was looking to move on, I would subscribe so I would receive the help-wanted ads ASAP. Otherwise, I would wait to look through it when the newsroom library finally put it on the shelf. In the 1990s I lived in a city where you could buy E&P at a newsstand, which was not usually the case. By then I thought it had lost its way. They had improved the design and placed less emphasis on just running newspaper companies' press releases, but the upgrades had the opposite effect and made the mag even less relevant. They never did longform reporting/analysis as well as CJR and AJR and they had stopped being a "for the record" source of industry trivia. So, really, E&P no longer performed a useful function. There's a lesson there, I think.

Really, I have not read a copy in about 10 years. Whenever it had anything remotely interesting, Romenesko would link to it.

 

[BYH]

Oof.

not surprising. i have fond memories of flipping through the classifieds when i was in college, looking at job openings and picturing myself working at whatever paper had an opening in sports.

Me too. Sad day.

 

[Mystery Meat II]

Oof.

not surprising. i have fond memories of flipping through the classifieds when i was in college, looking at job openings and picturing myself working at whatever paper had an opening in sports.

Me too. Sad day.

Me three. But E&P died for me as a must read/visit the days I found J-Jobs and Romenesko.

 

[Small Town Guy]

It's also huge news that Kirkus is closing. They were extremely well-respected in the book-reviewing business.

 

[BYH]

Oof.

not surprising. i have fond memories of flipping through the classifieds when i was in college, looking at job openings and picturing myself working at whatever paper had an opening in sports.

Me too. Sad day.

Me three. But E&P died for me as a must read/visit the days I found J-Jobs and Romenesko.

Yeah, same here, and E&P long ago began to feel like a house organ for the newspaper industry. Like Frank, I haven't seen it in years and years. Still, I remember feeling like a big shot when my parents got me a a subscription to it during college, like I was reading Big Boy magazines now or something.

 

[funky_mountain]

the last time i saw a hard copy of e&p, it was a shell of how i remembered it back when. and of course, few ads, classified or other.

 

[TigerVols]

not surprising. i have fond memories of flipping through the classifieds when i was in college, looking at job openings and picturing myself working at whatever paper had an opening in sports.

First thing that came to my mind; second, was when my name appeared in a little item about a new job I'd received. I don't think I've ever been prouder.

 

[Small Town Guy]

Does American Journalism Review still have a print product? Even a few years ago they were producing outstanding features, but I know they were having financial troubles. Their report on USA Today's Jack Kelley's various fiascoes was especially memorable.

 

[SF_Express]

This is even bigger news than "Holy ****!"

I, too, used to read it every month. I had a subscription for a while, and when I didn't, I always read it in the library or editor's copy or whatever of the paper I was looking for. I was a devoted reader of the classifieds, as well.

It's true that Romenesko has done a lot to take its place -- but it's also true that a lot of the news Romenesko linked to CAME from E&P. So he's losing that very good source of industry news. I wonder whether it's going to be an online entity, too, but from the announcement, it certainly doesn't sound like it.

Plus, what about the yearbook with all the paper listings and addresses and things. I'd have to think those are going away, too.

Sad news to me, as sad as any newspaper cutback or closing.

 

[finishthehat]

Does American Journalism Review still have a print product? Even a few years ago they were producing outstanding features, but I know they were having financial troubles. Their report on USA Today's Jack Kelley's various fiascoes was especially memorable.

Yes, we get it here in the newsroom.

 

[Moderator1]

I remember being a senior in college and going through that yearbook to make my list of where to send applications. THEN calling all the papers to make sure the names were still accurate and spelled correctly. Damn I was diligent then.
One day, I said, one day, I would be listed in there!

I was in and out of the SE chair so fast I don't think they got me.

 

[Joe Williams]

Same thing happened to ``Blacksmith & Buggy Whip,'' a long-ago monthly. ;D

 

[fishhack2009]

I found several jobs in E&P early in my career. But it's true, Romanesko, jjobs.com and this site have taken over many of those functions.


Nice to see that the announcement is chock-full of the usual sharkspeak one finds in announcements that alas, more of our peers are headed to the unemployment line: "wish them well in their future endeavors," "continue to assess the strategic fit," "strengthen investment in our core businesses."

All code for the fact that another round goes to the greedy minions ruining our once-proud business.

 

[fishhack2009]

Same thing happened to ``Blacksmith & Buggy Whip,'' a long-ago monthly. ;D

I hear "Today's Paste-Up" may be next...

 

[SF_Express]

Same thing happened to ``Blacksmith & Buggy Whip,'' a long-ago monthly. ;D

That's low.

It's accurate. But it's low.