Rick Perry: By The Numbers

[Dick Whitman]

Please yank this clown off the stage already.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/perry-criticizes-government-while-texas-job-growth-benefits-from-it/2011/08/18/gIQAPPZQSJ_story.html?hpid=z1

“The fact is, government doesn’t create jobs, otherwise the last 21 / 2 years of stimulus would have worked,” Perry said this month in a speech to the National Conference of State Legislatures. “Government can only create the environment that allows the private sector to create jobs. The single most important contributor to our jobs-friendly climate here in Texas is our low tax burden, because we know dollars do far more to create jobs and prosperity in the people’s hands than they do in the government’s.”

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Between December 2007 and last June, private-sector employment in Texas declined by 0.6 percent while public-sector jobs increased by 6.4 percent, according to the federal Bureau of Labor Statistics. Overall, government employees account for about one-sixth of the workforce in Texas.

 

[TheSportsPredictor]

Re: Rick Perry, complete fraud

During an interview, Rick Perry was presented with statistics showing that his state of Texas is third in the nation in number of teen pregnancies. The interviewer then asked Perry to explain this ranking if abstinence really works. Perry responded only that “abstinence works” and proceeded to fumble over and over again when confronted with the statistic. He then went on to blame those who teach the kids. Apparently, you have to teach abstinence the correct way, because according to Perry, abstinence worked in his experience.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/08/17/rick-perry-gets-heckled-claims-abstinence-works-despite-being-presented-statistics-that-show-otherwise-video/

 

[Beaker]

Re: Rick Perry, complete fraud

Ah, those pesky facts.

 

[old_tony]

Re: Rick Perry, complete fraud

Please yank this clown off the stage already.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/perry-criticizes-government-while-texas-job-growth-benefits-from-it/2011/08/18/gIQAPPZQSJ_story.html?hpid=z1

“The fact is, government doesn’t create jobs, otherwise the last 21 / 2 years of stimulus would have worked,” Perry said this month in a speech to the National Conference of State Legislatures. “Government can only create the environment that allows the private sector to create jobs. The single most important contributor to our jobs-friendly climate here in Texas is our low tax burden, because we know dollars do far more to create jobs and prosperity in the people’s hands than they do in the government’s.”

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Between December 2007 and last June, private-sector employment in Texas declined by 0.6 percent while public-sector jobs increased by 6.4 percent, according to the federal Bureau of Labor Statistics. Overall, government employees account for about one-sixth of the workforce in Texas.

So let me see if I have this clear, ****: Your point seems to be that 5/6s of the jobs market expanding doesn't create more jobs than 1/6?

That aside, the private sector actually produces things. Government doesn't produce anything ... other than misery.

 

[Point of Order]

Re: Rick Perry, complete fraud

A Job to Kill For... literally.

Texas Governor Rick Perry's close relationship with fringe figures of the religious right is likely to be an issue for him if, as looks increasingly likely, he decides to run for president. But his central role in an international incident could loom even larger. Last night, he declined to intervene in the execution of a Mexican national, Humberto Leal, by lethal injection, despite public requests from the White House and the government of Mexico to hold off. Here's the AP:

A Mexican national was executed Thursday evening for the rape-slaying of a San Antonio teenager after the U.S. Supreme Court turned down a White House-supported appeal to spare him in a death-penalty case where Texas justice triumphed over international treaty concerns...Police never told Leal after his arrest that he could seek legal assistance from the Mexican government under an international treaty, and his case had prompted appeals on what it could mean for other foreigners arrested in the United States and for Americans detained abroad. His appeals lawyers said such assistance would have helped his defense.

http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/07/rick-perry-death-penalty-problem-humberto-leal

 

[PCLoadLetter]

Re: Rick Perry, complete fraud

Please yank this clown off the stage already.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/perry-criticizes-government-while-texas-job-growth-benefits-from-it/2011/08/18/gIQAPPZQSJ_story.html?hpid=z1

“The fact is, government doesn’t create jobs, otherwise the last 21 / 2 years of stimulus would have worked,” Perry said this month in a speech to the National Conference of State Legislatures. “Government can only create the environment that allows the private sector to create jobs. The single most important contributor to our jobs-friendly climate here in Texas is our low tax burden, because we know dollars do far more to create jobs and prosperity in the people’s hands than they do in the government’s.”

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Between December 2007 and last June, private-sector employment in Texas declined by 0.6 percent while public-sector jobs increased by 6.4 percent, according to the federal Bureau of Labor Statistics. Overall, government employees account for about one-sixth of the workforce in Texas.

So let me see if I have this clear, ****: Your point seems to be that 5/6s of the jobs market expanding doesn't create more jobs than 1/6?

That aside, the private sector actually produces things. Government doesn't produce anything ... other than misery.

No.

It's not complicated.

Rick Perry is boasting about the job growth in Texas. That's his big selling point.

ALL of the job growth -- not some, not most, but ALL of the job growth -- has been government jobs. The private sector has lost jobs during that time period.

 

[LongTimeListener]

Re: Rick Perry, complete fraud

A Job to Kill For... literally.

Texas Governor Rick Perry's close relationship with fringe figures of the religious right is likely to be an issue for him if, as looks increasingly likely, he decides to run for president. But his central role in an international incident could loom even larger. Last night, he declined to intervene in the execution of a Mexican national, Humberto Leal, by lethal injection, despite public requests from the White House and the government of Mexico to hold off. Here's the AP:

A Mexican national was executed Thursday evening for the rape-slaying of a San Antonio teenager after the U.S. Supreme Court turned down a White House-supported appeal to spare him in a death-penalty case where Texas justice triumphed over international treaty concerns...Police never told Leal after his arrest that he could seek legal assistance from the Mexican government under an international treaty, and his case had prompted appeals on what it could mean for other foreigners arrested in the United States and for Americans detained abroad. His appeals lawyers said such assistance would have helped his defense.

http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/07/rick-perry-death-penalty-problem-humberto-leal

I'm not saying agree with this, in fact it should be pretty clear that I'm completely on the other side, but the fact that Rick Perry helped to kill a Mexican immigrant is not something that is going to cost him a lot of votes.

 

[Beaker]

Re: Rick Perry, complete fraud

His close relationships with fringe religious types definitely will be an issue for him.

 

[deskslave]

Re: Rick Perry, complete fraud

Please yank this clown off the stage already.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/perry-criticizes-government-while-texas-job-growth-benefits-from-it/2011/08/18/gIQAPPZQSJ_story.html?hpid=z1

“The fact is, government doesn’t create jobs, otherwise the last 21 / 2 years of stimulus would have worked,” Perry said this month in a speech to the National Conference of State Legislatures. “Government can only create the environment that allows the private sector to create jobs. The single most important contributor to our jobs-friendly climate here in Texas is our low tax burden, because we know dollars do far more to create jobs and prosperity in the people’s hands than they do in the government’s.”

...

Between December 2007 and last June, private-sector employment in Texas declined by 0.6 percent while public-sector jobs increased by 6.4 percent, according to the federal Bureau of Labor Statistics. Overall, government employees account for about one-sixth of the workforce in Texas.

So let me see if I have this clear, ****: Your point seems to be that 5/6s of the jobs market expanding doesn't create more jobs than 1/6?

That aside, the private sector actually produces things. Government doesn't produce anything ... other than misery.

The point is that 5/6 of the job market didn't expand.

The government jobs weren't just ALL of the growth. They were MORE than all the growth. They were the equivalent of a running back having 300 of his team's 275 yards because the rest of the team actually combined for negative yardage.

(Incidentally, I once covered a game where that actually happened.)

 

[Blitz]

Re: Rick Perry, complete fraud

Rick Perry's defection from the Dem party to become a Republican earlier this decade makes him the perfect Tea Party-style candidate - someone who has lots of conservative ideas but loves to fire guns in the air or do some loud, public hollering every so often. He can roust a crowd and has lots of contacts, but he's put his foot into his mouth often enough (most recently when he suggested that Texas might just defect from the rest off the union if it didn't get its way on some issue) that nobody outside Texas, and many within our bounds, don't give him much of a chance to win the presidency.

President Obama continues to look out over the Republican-possibles crowd and say a silent prayer of thanks to the Almighty Father.

 

[hondo]

Re: Rick Perry, complete fraud

During an interview, Rick Perry was presented with statistics showing that his state of Texas is third in the nation in number of teen pregnancies. The interviewer then asked Perry to explain this ranking if abstinence really works. Perry responded only that “abstinence works” and proceeded to fumble over and over again when confronted with the statistic. He then went on to blame those who teach the kids. Apparently, you have to teach abstinence the correct way, because according to Perry, abstinence worked in his experience.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/08/17/rick-perry-gets-heckled-claims-abstinence-works-despite-being-presented-statistics-that-show-otherwise-video/

Abstinence works 100 percent of the time -- when sex is actually, you know, abstained from. It's not that abstinence doesn't work, it's that the intent to abstain doesn't work.

And Perry could have pulled the switch on Humberto Leal and I would have applauded him.

Otherwise, I'm not thrilled about Perry. Still waiting for Jeb Bush to come in and clean these clown's clocks.

 

[old_tony]

Re: Rick Perry, complete fraud

Please yank this clown off the stage already.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/perry-criticizes-government-while-texas-job-growth-benefits-from-it/2011/08/18/gIQAPPZQSJ_story.html?hpid=z1

“The fact is, government doesn’t create jobs, otherwise the last 21 / 2 years of stimulus would have worked,” Perry said this month in a speech to the National Conference of State Legislatures. “Government can only create the environment that allows the private sector to create jobs. The single most important contributor to our jobs-friendly climate here in Texas is our low tax burden, because we know dollars do far more to create jobs and prosperity in the people’s hands than they do in the government’s.”

...

Between December 2007 and last June, private-sector employment in Texas declined by 0.6 percent while public-sector jobs increased by 6.4 percent, according to the federal Bureau of Labor Statistics. Overall, government employees account for about one-sixth of the workforce in Texas.

So let me see if I have this clear, ****: Your point seems to be that 5/6s of the jobs market expanding doesn't create more jobs than 1/6?

That aside, the private sector actually produces things. Government doesn't produce anything ... other than misery.

The point is that 5/6 of the job market didn't expand.

The government jobs weren't just ALL of the growth. They were MORE than all the growth. They were the equivalent of a running back having 300 of his team's 275 yards because the rest of the team actually combined for negative yardage.

(Incidentally, I once covered a game where that actually happened.)

And as long as Obama's president, there will continue to be no growth or very little growth in the private sector. **** doesn't happen in a vacuum.

Now some states will do things to try to make their own individual state more attractive. Texas is doing some of those things. Put a "tax-'em-to-death" lib in the Texas statehouse and watch how many businesses flee the state.

 

[deskslave]

Re: Rick Perry, complete fraud

Please yank this clown off the stage already.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/perry-criticizes-government-while-texas-job-growth-benefits-from-it/2011/08/18/gIQAPPZQSJ_story.html?hpid=z1

“The fact is, government doesn’t create jobs, otherwise the last 21 / 2 years of stimulus would have worked,” Perry said this month in a speech to the National Conference of State Legislatures. “Government can only create the environment that allows the private sector to create jobs. The single most important contributor to our jobs-friendly climate here in Texas is our low tax burden, because we know dollars do far more to create jobs and prosperity in the people’s hands than they do in the government’s.”

...

Between December 2007 and last June, private-sector employment in Texas declined by 0.6 percent while public-sector jobs increased by 6.4 percent, according to the federal Bureau of Labor Statistics. Overall, government employees account for about one-sixth of the workforce in Texas.

So let me see if I have this clear, ****: Your point seems to be that 5/6s of the jobs market expanding doesn't create more jobs than 1/6?

That aside, the private sector actually produces things. Government doesn't produce anything ... other than misery.

The point is that 5/6 of the job market didn't expand.

The government jobs weren't just ALL of the growth. They were MORE than all the growth. They were the equivalent of a running back having 300 of his team's 275 yards because the rest of the team actually combined for negative yardage.

(Incidentally, I once covered a game where that actually happened.)

And as long as Obama's president, there will continue to be no growth or very little growth in the private sector. **** doesn't happen in a vacuum.

Now some states will do things to try to make their own individual state more attractive. Texas is doing some of those things. Put a "tax-'em-to-death" lib in the Texas statehouse and watch how many businesses flee the state.

I know Rick Perry told you that's true, but the fact is that it isn't. Even where jobs have been created, they've been created in a way that cannot be replicated on a national scale. (And even if it could be replicated, you can't build an economy on $7.25-an-hour jobs at Wal-Mart.)

But do feel free to tell me about all those jobs that were created in the six damn years that the U.S. had a Republican president and a Republican Congress.

 

[joe_schmoe]

Re: Rick Perry, complete fraud

Rick Perry's defection from the Dem party to become a Republican earlier this decade makes him the perfect Tea Party-style candidate -

Random fact checker here...I believe this is the first year of this decade (or second depending on how you feel about 0 years), and I'm pretty sure Perry was a Republican on Jan. 1.
Perhaps you mean this century? Pretty sure he was Republican Jan 1, 2000 too.

His democratic years were in the 1980s and that's very unlikely to matter. The 1980s Texas was still a fairly democratic state, mainly Southern Democrats, a term long since thrown out the window. But that's pretty much what he was then.

I'm likely not voting for Perry, but I love how the Dems seem to be so scared of this guy that they are just throwing everything out there to see what sticks.

 

[heyabbott]

Re: Rick Perry, complete fraud

Rick Perry's defection from the Dem party to become a Republican earlier this decade makes him the perfect Tea Party-style candidate -

Random fact checker here...I believe this is the first year of this decade (or second depending on how you feel about 0 years), and I'm pretty sure Perry was a Republican on Jan. 1.
Perhaps you mean this century? Pretty sure he was Republican Jan 1, 2000 too.

His democratic years were in the 1980s and that's very unlikely to matter. The 1980s Texas was still a fairly democratic state, mainly Southern Democrats, a term long since thrown out the window. But that's pretty much what he was then.

I'm likely not voting for Perry, but I love how the Dems seem to be so scared of this guy that they are just throwing everything out there to see what sticks.

Throwing the truth and hoping it sticks is the last refuge of a pacifist.

 

[Dick Whitman]

Re: Rick Perry, complete fraud

Please yank this clown off the stage already.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/perry-criticizes-government-while-texas-job-growth-benefits-from-it/2011/08/18/gIQAPPZQSJ_story.html?hpid=z1

“The fact is, government doesn’t create jobs, otherwise the last 21 / 2 years of stimulus would have worked,” Perry said this month in a speech to the National Conference of State Legislatures. “Government can only create the environment that allows the private sector to create jobs. The single most important contributor to our jobs-friendly climate here in Texas is our low tax burden, because we know dollars do far more to create jobs and prosperity in the people’s hands than they do in the government’s.”

...

Between December 2007 and last June, private-sector employment in Texas declined by 0.6 percent while public-sector jobs increased by 6.4 percent, according to the federal Bureau of Labor Statistics. Overall, government employees account for about one-sixth of the workforce in Texas.

So let me see if I have this clear, ****: Your point seems to be that 5/6s of the jobs market expanding doesn't create more jobs than 1/6?

That aside, the private sector actually produces things. Government doesn't produce anything ... other than misery.

The point is that 5/6 of the job market didn't expand.

The government jobs weren't just ALL of the growth. They were MORE than all the growth. They were the equivalent of a running back having 300 of his team's 275 yards because the rest of the team actually combined for negative yardage.

(Incidentally, I once covered a game where that actually happened.)

And as long as Obama's president, there will continue to be no growth or very little growth in the private sector. **** doesn't happen in a vacuum.

Now some states will do things to try to make their own individual state more attractive. Texas is doing some of those things. Put a "tax-'em-to-death" lib in the Texas statehouse and watch how many businesses flee the state.

Please yank this clown off the stage already.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/perry-criticizes-government-while-texas-job-growth-benefits-from-it/2011/08/18/gIQAPPZQSJ_story.html?hpid=z1

“The fact is, government doesn’t create jobs, otherwise the last 21 / 2 years of stimulus would have worked,” Perry said this month in a speech to the National Conference of State Legislatures. “Government can only create the environment that allows the private sector to create jobs. The single most important contributor to our jobs-friendly climate here in Texas is our low tax burden, because we know dollars do far more to create jobs and prosperity in the people’s hands than they do in the government’s.”

...

Between December 2007 and last June, private-sector employment in Texas declined by 0.6 percent while public-sector jobs increased by 6.4 percent, according to the federal Bureau of Labor Statistics. Overall, government employees account for about one-sixth of the workforce in Texas.

So let me see if I have this clear, ****: Your point seems to be that 5/6s of the jobs market expanding doesn't create more jobs than 1/6?

That aside, the private sector actually produces things. Government doesn't produce anything ... other than misery.

The point is that 5/6 of the job market didn't expand.

The government jobs weren't just ALL of the growth. They were MORE than all the growth. They were the equivalent of a running back having 300 of his team's 275 yards because the rest of the team actually combined for negative yardage.

(Incidentally, I once covered a game where that actually happened.)

And as long as Obama's president, there will continue to be no growth or very little growth in the private sector. **** doesn't happen in a vacuum.

Now some states will do things to try to make their own individual state more attractive. Texas is doing some of those things. Put a "tax-'em-to-death" lib in the Texas statehouse and watch how many businesses flee the state.

Any other state could come along and undercut Texas if it so chose. Lower taxes. Less regulation. At what cost, eventually? If it were a magic pill, everyone would be doing it. That they aren't should tell you something.

 

[Blitz]

Re: Rick Perry, complete fraud

The nightly news here at KENS-5 CBS in San Antonio just ran a story that said Perry has the freedom to use the next 18 months to campaign and spend large amounts of time away from the state, all the while collecting his $150,000 governor's salary. It's because, report said, of an 1870s-era piece of legislation that took away all the state's top lawmaker's power or need to govern except for during legislative sessions.
Perry, also, switched in 1989 from Democrat to Republican. Good catch, joe_

 

[Mizzougrad96]

Re: Rick Perry, complete fraud

I understand that politics are in the news, but why should anyone be allowed to start a thread that just by the title is trying to pick a fight?

 

[Point of Order]

Re: Rick Perry, Nobel candidate in statistics?

And Perry could have pulled the switch on Humberto Leal and I would have applauded him.

He might as well have.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

Re: Rick Perry, Nobel candidate in statistics?

I understand that politics are in the news, but why should anyone be allowed to start a thread that just by the title is trying to pick a fight?

When is the last time I started a thread you didn't ***** about?

How about you start a thread that isn't picking a fight? You can't start a thread with this title and have a legitimate discussion/debate.

What would happen if Hondo, Tony, me or printdust started a thread that said "Obama, complete fraud..."

Some of us would also like to have a political discussion on these boards and considering how that is barely even allowed at this point, starting threads like this will just prevent that from happening.