Pat Tillman's Birthday

[Duane Postum]

Well, I see it's on ESPN's homepage.

 

[Evil Bastard (aka Chris_L)]

Back on track, although anyone who believes the noisy one has an ounce of "pity" for anyone who gets in the way of his Let's-Pretend-I'm-A-Soldier-Too toy war of which he's so fond needs their heads examined, Tillman's piece has gotten picked up around the blogosphere a little this morning. I doubt it will catch fire generally. Oddly enough, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him turn up on Fox. Remember, Rupert is, at bottom, a tabloid merchant and he values buzz and volume over anything else, so I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Kevin, whose sentiments might not be polite enough for the nets or the boring old farts at CNN, turn up with Sean and the Meat Puppet, or (more likely) Shep Smith.

You start threads on every link you can find and I'm the one who is noisy? Yeah right. Oh and for me not having any pity - I forgot that you are one of those writers who presume to put thoughts in their subjects head and emotions they may or may not feel into your stories. Par for the course.

JR - sorry if I have offended you but your sticking your nose in to anything American and never saying anything positive is an act that has worn thin with many around here - not just me. And you following Fenian around with your nose up his ass is not really flattering to you either. You and fenian hate America - we get it already.

 

[JR]

Chris, as I have pointed out several times before, "things American"--like your favourite President's War--are international in scope. So spare me the "sticking my nose into anything American" nonsense. One more example of your cementhead xenophobia.

And since Canadian soldiers are losing their lives in Afghanistan--directly attributable to Bush the Younger's little side adventure in Iraq--I have as much right as you to comment on this topic.

And it's hard to come up with anything positive to say about the doofuses you have running things right now.

I don't hate America. But I pity people like you and your ignorant "America--Love it or Leave It" mindset.

 

[Evil Bastard (aka Chris_L)]

JR - here's how your posts generally read

Blah blah blah Fredo's war blah blah blah Fenian you are so right on about that blah blah blah only a right wing nutjob would believe that blah blah blah blah listen to me I know what's best for you and your country blah blah blah blah blah blah drive a hybrid!

We get it already. Canada is a minor player in world affairs and you wish to play with the varsity.

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

Nobody was talking to you.
Apologize, unreservedly, to JR for glibly and stupidly traducing -- look it up -- the sacrifices made by his uncles or take a ****ing walk. You are -- and, ought to be -- nothing to the decent people here until that apology is forthcoming. Jesus, you have no limits. None at all.

 

[JR]

I used to find Chris L mildly amusing and reasonably intelligent even though we disagreed with each other on just about every topic under the sun.

Now he's just stupid, offensive and an intellectual coward.

 

[Evil Bastard (aka Chris_L)]

Nobody was talking to you.
Apologize, unreservedly, to JR for glibly and stupidly traducing -- look it up -- the sacrifices made by his uncles or take a ****ing walk. You are -- and, ought to be -- nothing to the decent people here until that apology is forthcoming. Jesus, you have no limits. None at all.

You take a shot at me then say nobody was talking to me? And I know what "traducing" means but thanks for assuming you are the only one with a vocabulary. Again par for the course - you elitist snob.

I said the comment was not aimed at JR (it was actually aimed at you because I know your family history and how you are also the first person to post a thread on anything that reflects negatively on the US military).

When we have a thread about military heroes of Canada then I will gladly give hosannas to JR's uncles. It is tragic how this has gone from being about Kevin Tillman to being about JR's uncles sacrifice for Canada. But it is not unexpected - you and JR always seem to twist threads to be about whatever fits your own whims.

 

[JR]

Chris, you were the one who introduced the irrelevancy about one's family serving in the military as a prerequisite to commenting on the Tillman piece.

And then we find out that unless it's the U.S. military, it doesnt count.

I find it amusing that unless someone has their head up Fredo and his cronies' collective ass, they're "anti-American" or "anti-military".

Try some independent thought once in a while instead of bringing your trailerpark arguments to the party.

 

[Gehrig38]

You boys tripping over yourselves to gain the edge in your never ending good vs evil debate may have missed the most interesting development in Tillman post- check out the first reply:

Comment #29995 by Sandy on 10/20 at 8:22 am

Kevin: What a piece you have written. There is really nothing that one can add to your eloquence, except to say thank you and that I’m terribly sorry for your family’s loss and pain.


BTW - how do you know for sure it was written by Kevin Tillman?

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

You boys tripping over yourselves to gain the edge in your never ending good vs evil debate may have missed the most interesting development in Tillman post- check out the first reply:

Comment #29995 by Sandy on 10/20 at 8:22 am

Kevin: What a piece you have written. There is really nothing that one can add to your eloquence, except to say thank you and that I’m terribly sorry for your family’s loss and pain.


BTW - how do you know for sure it was written by Kevin Tillman?

And the evidence for the latter piece of speculation would consist of?

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

Chris, you were the one who introduced the irrelevancy about one's family serving in the military as a prerequisite to commenting on the Tillman piece.

And then we find out that unless it's the U.S. military, it doesnt count.

I find it amusing that unless someone has their head up Fredo and his cronies' collective ass, they're "anti-American" or "anti-military".

Try some independent thought once in a while instead of bringing your trailerpark arguments to the party.

The latest reply from the Undersecretary For Desktop Warfare isn't even coherent, JR, and you've replied quite ably here but I think it's important to realize that he is a strong supporter of the US military in the abstract and in the vicarious, but not in the actual, bleeding literal sense. Otherwise, he would have noticed that it was an actual US soldier here criticizing the think-tank cowboys and resume warriors who played Risk with actual human beings, and who are now depending upon their dwindling band of media sycophants and tree-farming Thuycidideses to dodge their responsibility for the single biggest US foreign policy debacle in the past 50 years.

 

[Herbert Anchovy]

I have my doubts Kevin Tillman wrote that. All the thoughts are most probably his own, but it rides like a souped-up Corvette.

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

Well, he'll be on TV somewhere this week, so we'll see.
Could be a ghost. No evidence yet, though, and I've never heard Kevin speak, but Pat seemed pretty well-read and articulate.

 

[PopeDirkBenedict]

Back on track, although anyone who believes the noisy one has an ounce of "pity" for anyone who gets in the way of his Let's-Pretend-I'm-A-Soldier-Too toy war of which he's so fond needs their heads examined, Tillman's piece has gotten picked up around the blogosphere a little this morning. I doubt it will catch fire generally. Oddly enough, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him turn up on Fox. Remember, Rupert is, at bottom, a tabloid merchant and he values buzz and volume over anything else, so I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Kevin, whose sentiments might not be polite enough for the nets or the boring old farts at CNN, turn up with Sean and the Meat Puppet, or (more likely) Shep Smith.

You don't think Olbermann is going to have Kevin on? KO would easily be my bet for which cable show picks him up first.

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

Back on track, although anyone who believes the noisy one has an ounce of "pity" for anyone who gets in the way of his Let's-Pretend-I'm-A-Soldier-Too toy war of which he's so fond needs their heads examined, Tillman's piece has gotten picked up around the blogosphere a little this morning. I doubt it will catch fire generally. Oddly enough, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him turn up on Fox. Remember, Rupert is, at bottom, a tabloid merchant and he values buzz and volume over anything else, so I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Kevin, whose sentiments might not be polite enough for the nets or the boring old farts at CNN, turn up with Sean and the Meat Puppet, or (more likely) Shep Smith.

You don't think Olbermann is going to have Kevin on? KO would easily be my bet for which cable show picks him up first.

Your Holiness --

KO would be the obvious choice, and may well land him first, but I will be amazed if he doesn;t turn up on Fox. CNN will do a "where are they now?" segment on him 50 years from now, probably with the 125-year old Larry King.

 

[PopeDirkBenedict]

I agree that Fox is probably going to have him on. If you are Fox, do you go with a respectful interviewer (i.e. a newsman), like Shep Smith or Chris Wallace or even Brit Hume, who would only lightly challenge Kevin and is unlikely to make headlines? Or do you send him to O'Reilly or Inanity and Fold, where it is much more likely that an interviewer will really grill him and possible cause an uproar?

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

Yr Holiness ---
I think they go with a one-on-one, but probably not O'Reilly. Smith is probably the best bet. Inanity And Fold --- which I am stealing -- is the second-day fandango, I think.

 

[PopeDirkBenedict]

What about Greta Van Susteren? Her show fits the interview mold the best -- I've watched Shep's shows and he doesn't really seem to do interviews. She is unlikely to cause a brouhaha and it would be in prime time.

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

Good idea.
That I didn't think of her, though, makes me wonder about Greta's profile these days.