NFL drug testing is a joke

[spnited]

Players are given advance notice of test and can actually claim to be "not prepared to give a sample."


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/22/sports/football/22testing.html?_r=1&ref=sports

 

[Boom_70]

Read the story. The complexities involved in trying to administer what "the experts" would consider a legitimate test are to me degrading - starting with " must provide sample in full view of monitor". Not an easy task for many.

The story actually changed my outlook on the whole topic. It seems like bar for monitoring has been set at an impossible height.

 

[Stitch]

Read the story. The complexities involved in trying to administer what "the experts" would consider a legitimate test are to me degrading - starting with " must provide sample in full view of monitor". Not an easy task for many.

The story actually changed my outlook on the whole topic. It seems like bar for monitoring has been set at an impossible height.

I had to pee in a cup in full-view of a monitor for a job selling computers at Best Buy in the mid '90s. Players need to man up.

 

[NoOneLikesUs]

Read the story. The complexities involved in trying to administer what "the experts" would consider a legitimate test are to me degrading - starting with " must provide sample in full view of monitor". Not an easy task for many.

The story actually changed my outlook on the whole topic. It seems like bar for monitoring has been set at an impossible height.

I had to pee in a cup in full-view of a monitor for a job selling computers at Best Buy in the mid '90s. Players need to man up.

Ha! I remember doing that for a seasonal job at Best Buy too. It wasn't that big of a deal.

 

[IllMil]

Read the story. The complexities involved in trying to administer what "the experts" would consider a legitimate test are to me degrading - starting with " must provide sample in full view of monitor". Not an easy task for many.

Visanthe Shiancoe doesn't see the problem.

 

[Tarheel316]

I had to pee in a cup in full-view of a monitor for a job selling computers at Best Buy in the mid '90s. Players need to man up.

Agreed.

 

[HeinekenMan]

Read the story. The complexities involved in trying to administer what "the experts" would consider a legitimate test are to me degrading - starting with " must provide sample in full view of monitor". Not an easy task for many.

The story actually changed my outlook on the whole topic. It seems like bar for monitoring has been set at an impossible height.

I had to pee in a cup in full-view of a monitor for a job selling computers at Best Buy in the mid '90s. Players need to man up.

Yep. I have the photos to prove it. You'd be surprised how many people actually think I'm required to "monitor" them. When it comes to the hearts of the hotties in the small appliances department, I go the extra mile to make sure nobody gets in the way.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

All sports drug tests that don't test for HGH are a joke.

 

[Boom_70]

All sports drug tests that don't test for HGH are a joke.

I am coming around to "so what" .

 

[JC]

Players are given advance notice of test and can actually claim to be "not prepared to give a sample."


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/22/sports/football/22testing.html?_r=1&ref=sports

Shocking! Next thing you'll tell me is that only 5% of baseball players were juicing(proof) as OOP would say.

 

[Tarheel316]

JC, what percentage would you say are on "the stuff" now?

 

[93Devil]

No, these guys just work out better now... :

 

[cranberry]

All sports drug tests that don't test for HGH are a joke.

All sports drug tests for HGH are a joke.

 

[IllMil]

I get the point, but it is definitely true that the training is far more advanced than it was 40, 20 or 10 years ago. Every guy with muscle tone is accused of using steroids now.

No, these guys just work out better now... :

 

[93Devil]

No one has ever worked out harder than this kid. Do you see a difference?

 

[IllMil]

This is exactly the kind of narrow-mindedness I'm talking about. There are thousands of people in this country who are more defined and muscular than Herschel Walker and never touched a steroid. Herschell Walker didn't even lift weights, he did thousands of push-ups every day. There are twiggy baseball players who have failed multiple drug tests.

Looking at a picture of a shirtless athlete or noting the size of his biceps is not sufficient evidence to decide who is and isn't using steroids. There are ways to be ripped or massive without using banned drugs. A lot of it is training technique, diet, and the big one, genetics.

There are people doing it. Terrell Owens is widely believed to be clean and has as good a physique as anyone who's ever played football. And honestly, that picture of Joey Porter (I think?) isn't all that unbelievable. With the right body and training, a physique like that is attainable. He actually looks pretty natural compared to some of the **** out there.

 

[IllMil]

And at least use a picture that has some detail.

http://www.achievement.org/achievers/wal0/large/wal0-018.jpg

I'd say he's every bit as built as Porter above.