NBA On Hold Until 2010

[broadway joe]

I read the NBA's ratings were up last year and up again this year.

In many ways this league is healthier and more relevant than baseball.

Boom you're letting the NY centric thing skew your view.

Not to speak for Mr. Boom, but there probably is some truth to that. If I lived in proximity to that horrible basketball team, and had to listen to Isiah/Marbury crap every day for two years, I'd probably hate the NBA, too.

There's nothing quite like the buzz of springtime in New York when the Knicks are good.

Last time that happened was maybe the Checketts era?

But I question if that buzz can ever be achieved again under the current ownership-- LeBron or no LeBron. So much bad has happened.

They've made you feel like rooting for this team is immoral.

Oh, LeBron would change all that, trust me. The A-list celebs would be courtside again, there would be meaningful games and people would forget that Jimmy Dolan and Isiah ever existed.

But the bottom line on LeBron is it's just too early to get a handle on what he's likely to do. There are too many variables that can change dramatically before the time comes for him to make a decision. Will he have any rings? Will the Knicks be a playoff team by then? Will the Cavs be in the salary cap position to go after someone like Bosh themselves? But anyone who says they don't see why he'd leave just because the Cavs are much better than the Knicks at the moment just isn't seeing the big picture. And the fact that Cleveland is his hometown is, I think, a very small factor.

 

[bostonbred]

Someone remind me again how many NBA championships LeBron has won.

and how many years did it take Jordan to get his first?

How many years did it take James to get to the playoffs? His 3rd season. Jordan's Bulls team made the playoffs in his first year.

Jordan had to play the real Celtics, Bird-McHale-Parrish, the Bad Boy Pistons, The Show Time Lakers.

LeBron's playing in a glorified AAU NBA

Please, lets not get into that discussion. You're telling me the players during that era were better than the players of today? You've got to be kidding me.

Let the oldtimers have their misguided memories.

Far from the truth, but that's besides the point.

 

[Boom_70]

I read the NBA's ratings were up last year and up again this year.

In many ways this league is healthier and more relevant than baseball.

Boom you're letting the NY centric thing skew your view.

Not to speak for Mr. Boom, but there probably is some truth to that. If I lived in proximity to that horrible basketball team, and had to listen to Isiah/Marbury crap every day for two years, I'd probably hate the NBA, too.

There's nothing quite like the buzz of springtime in New York when the Knicks are good.

Last time that happened was maybe the Checketts era?

But I question if that buzz can ever be achieved again under the current ownership-- LeBron or no LeBron. So much bad has happened.

They've made you feel like rooting for this team is immoral.

Oh, LeBron would change all that, trust me. The A-list celebs would be courtside again, there would be meaningful games and people would forget that Jimmy Dolan and Isiah ever existed.

But the bottom line on LeBron is it's just too early to get a handle on what he's likely to do. There are too many variables that can change dramatically before the time comes for him to make a decision. Will he have any rings? Will the Knicks be a playoff team by then? Will the Cavs be in the salary cap position to go after someone like Bosh themselves? But anyone who says they don't see why he'd leave just because the Cavs are much better than the Knicks at the moment just isn't seeing the big picture. And the fact that Cleveland is his hometown is, I think, a very small factor.

And hence much of the NBA is on hold until Lebron decides what he is going to do.

 

[RossLT]

Some people have decided that the "NBA sucks" and won't be dissuaded, no matter what.

There are times when I can't stand to watch an NBA game.

And then there are times, like last night, when watching games are great.

Take out NBA and insert any random three-letter league abbreviation.

I know this may border on heresy because we are all supposed to love the NFL unconditionally, but I find it way harder to watch.

 

[Boom_70]

Some people have decided that the "NBA sucks" and won't be dissuaded, no matter what.

There are times when I can't stand to watch an NBA game.

And then there are times, like last night, when watching games are great.

Take out NBA and insert any random three-letter league abbreviation.

I know this may border on heresy because we are all supposed to love the NFL unconditionally, but I find it way harder to watch.

Don't find it harder to watch but do think the NFL has gotten pretty bland. Most of coaches are cut from the same cloth and run the same low risk playbook . I found the Cardinals and the Dolphins a breath of fresh air because to the different things they did on offense.

At this point I'll be much more entertained by almost any college football game than an NFL game.

 

[Some Guy]

Someone remind me again how many NBA championships LeBron has won.

and how many years did it take Jordan to get his first?

How many years did it take James to get to the playoffs? His 3rd season. Jordan's Bulls team made the playoffs in his first year.

Jordan had to play the real Celtics, Bird-McHale-Parrish, the Bad Boy Pistons, The Show Time Lakers.

LeBron's playing in a glorified AAU NBA

Please, lets not get into that discussion. You're telling me the players during that era were better than the players of today? You've got to be kidding me.

You tell us chuck:

Bird Pierce
McCale Garnett
Parish Perkins/ Brown
Johnson Allen
Ainge Rondo

I'm not sure one could make an argument that players of one era are better or worse than players of another by comparing starting lineups of one particular team.

And, it's McHale.

Then where would you start the argument?

I already said ... there were guys on almost every team in the 80s who would not even sniff an NBA uniform today ... Maybe all the stars were comparable ... but the end of the bench and the middle-tier guys, forget about it.

Top to bottom, there is considerably more talent in the league now than then ...

I would disagree with you but the other side is that fans are not paying to see players on " the end of the bench" .

I was making a larger point about the overall talent in the league. There's just more of it.

But if you want to talk stars of today vs. stars of the '80s: Tom Chambers made four All-Star teams.

Here's another: Kelly Tripucka, who made two All-Star teams in the early '80s, couldn't even crack the rotation for most teams today. He'd get blown off the floor.

Yeah, I said it.

 

[cwilson3]

Brian Scalabrine begs to differ.

 

[Some Guy]

Brian Scalabrine begs to differ.

He'd have fit right in with the other non-jumping white guys that populated the bench in the 80s and early 90s ... although he's still light years better than Jack Haley.

 

[franklin lincoln]

Someone remind me again how many NBA championships LeBron has won.

and how many years did it take Jordan to get his first?

How many years did it take James to get to the playoffs? His 3rd season. Jordan's Bulls team made the playoffs in his first year.

Jordan had to play the real Celtics, Bird-McHale-Parrish, the Bad Boy Pistons, The Show Time Lakers.

LeBron's playing in a glorified AAU NBA

Please, lets not get into that discussion. You're telling me the players during that era were better than the players of today? You've got to be kidding me.

You tell us chuck:

Bird Pierce
McCale Garnett
Parish Perkins/ Brown
Johnson Allen
Ainge Rondo

I'm not sure one could make an argument that players of one era are better or worse than players of another by comparing starting lineups of one particular team.

And, it's McHale.

Then where would you start the argument?

I already said ... there were guys on almost every team in the 80s who would not even sniff an NBA uniform today ... Maybe all the stars were comparable ... but the end of the bench and the middle-tier guys, forget about it.

Top to bottom, there is considerably more talent in the league now than then ...

I would disagree with you but the other side is that fans are not paying to see players on " the end of the bench" .

I was making a larger point about the overall talent in the league. There's just more of it.

But if you want to talk stars of today vs. stars of the '80s: Tom Chambers made four All-Star teams.

Here's another: Kelly Tripucka, who made two All-Star teams in the early '80s, couldn't even crack the rotation for most teams today. He'd get blown off the floor.

Yeah, I said it.

One problem with this argument: Players vs. Teams.

Even if players are better, teams might not be.

Oh, and the Kelly Tripucka choice is ironic, considering this year's no-name superstar.

Troy Murphy.

 

[spnited]

Oh, and the Kelly Tripucka choice is ironic, considering this year's no-name superstar.

Troy Murphy.

Troy Murphy is niether a no name nor a superstar... simply a solid NBA player...not as good as Kelly Tripucka was in his best years.

Murphy and Tripucka also were both All-Americans at Notre Dame and both are from New Jersey.

 

[Boom_70]

Someone remind me again how many NBA championships LeBron has won.

and how many years did it take Jordan to get his first?

How many years did it take James to get to the playoffs? His 3rd season. Jordan's Bulls team made the playoffs in his first year.

Jordan had to play the real Celtics, Bird-McHale-Parrish, the Bad Boy Pistons, The Show Time Lakers.

LeBron's playing in a glorified AAU NBA

Please, lets not get into that discussion. You're telling me the players during that era were better than the players of today? You've got to be kidding me.

You tell us chuck:

Bird Pierce
McCale Garnett
Parish Perkins/ Brown
Johnson Allen
Ainge Rondo

I'm not sure one could make an argument that players of one era are better or worse than players of another by comparing starting lineups of one particular team.

And, it's McHale.

Then where would you start the argument?

I already said ... there were guys on almost every team in the 80s who would not even sniff an NBA uniform today ... Maybe all the stars were comparable ... but the end of the bench and the middle-tier guys, forget about it.

Top to bottom, there is considerably more talent in the league now than then ...

I would disagree with you but the other side is that fans are not paying to see players on " the end of the bench" .

I was making a larger point about the overall talent in the league. There's just more of it.

But if you want to talk stars of today vs. stars of the '80s: Tom Chambers made four All-Star teams.

Here's another: Kelly Tripucka, who made two All-Star teams in the early '80s, couldn't even crack the rotation for most teams today. He'd get blown off the floor.

Yeah, I said it.

Stephon Marbury is being paid 20 mil per year as a "max star" - nuff said .

 

[Some Guy]

Someone remind me again how many NBA championships LeBron has won.

and how many years did it take Jordan to get his first?

How many years did it take James to get to the playoffs? His 3rd season. Jordan's Bulls team made the playoffs in his first year.

Jordan had to play the real Celtics, Bird-McHale-Parrish, the Bad Boy Pistons, The Show Time Lakers.

LeBron's playing in a glorified AAU NBA

Please, lets not get into that discussion. You're telling me the players during that era were better than the players of today? You've got to be kidding me.

You tell us chuck:

Bird Pierce
McCale Garnett
Parish Perkins/ Brown
Johnson Allen
Ainge Rondo

I'm not sure one could make an argument that players of one era are better or worse than players of another by comparing starting lineups of one particular team.

And, it's McHale.

Then where would you start the argument?

I already said ... there were guys on almost every team in the 80s who would not even sniff an NBA uniform today ... Maybe all the stars were comparable ... but the end of the bench and the middle-tier guys, forget about it.

Top to bottom, there is considerably more talent in the league now than then ...

I would disagree with you but the other side is that fans are not paying to see players on " the end of the bench" .

I was making a larger point about the overall talent in the league. There's just more of it.

But if you want to talk stars of today vs. stars of the '80s: Tom Chambers made four All-Star teams.

Here's another: Kelly Tripucka, who made two All-Star teams in the early '80s, couldn't even crack the rotation for most teams today. He'd get blown off the floor.

Yeah, I said it.

Stephon Marbury is being paid 20 mil per year as a "max star" - nuff said .

Technically, Marbury is now making the veteran minimum.

 

[poindexter]

LeBron is so big in LA that the Clippers are selling $35 seats for $15.

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Here is an email I received this weekend:

I’ve spent the last couple of months working with blood donors like you to get you tickets for exciting Clippers games as a “Thank You” from the Red Cross donating blood. Since I’ve spent so much time talking and emailing with everyone, I’ve come to realize that many blood donors are big basketball fans who just don’t get many opportunities to see games. So, since we had such a great turnout this year, I am able to extend an offer to you to see the most exciting player in basketball, LeBron James, as a thank you from us! The Clippers take on Cleveland at 7:30 on Tuesday, March 10, at STAPLES Center.

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