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NEW YORK — Jason Giambi agreed Thursday to meet with baseball steroids investigator George Mitchell and apologized for his conduct, becoming the first active player known to cooperate with the former Senate majority leader.
“I alone am responsible for my actions and I apologize to the commissioner, the owners and the players for any suggestion that they were responsible for my behavior,” the New York Yankees star said in a statement.
The decision by Giambi came two weeks after baseball commissioner Bud Selig requested the meeting and followed long negotiations between lawyers for the players’ union and Major League Baseball.
 
Good for Jason. It sounds like he's following his conscience and doing what he feels he needs to do for his fellow players, his teammates and himself.
 
Giambi had no choice but to go along with Bud Selig's decree. Is he doing the right thing morally? Yes. Is he going to hurt his career? Yes. Once he admits what he has done, the Yankees and their lawyers will void his contact.
 
This is a no win situation for Jason, he will be blackballed either way. At least if the Yankees void his contract he may be able to get on with another team, however either way you look at it his involvement with this investigation will cost him millions. Regardless of how he got here.
 
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Yeah, teams are going to want to sign a guy who can't run the bases or field his position and is an admitted steroid cheat.
 
It's not even blackmail, really. Suspension has from the beginning been an empty threat issued for publicity reasons only and Giambi undestood he could beat that in front of an arbitrator. His contract is not in jeopardy, either. His decision does allow Commissioner Selig to save face and look tough, plus Giambi gets to put this past him, and somebody talks to Mitchell's silly little investigation. And Giambi stll doesn't have to say anything everyone doesn't already know. Everybody wins.
 
hockeybeat said:
Yeah, teams are going to want to sign a guy who can't run the bases or field his position and is an admitted steroid cheat.

Trust me, someone will find a spot for a guy that can pound like Jason, hitting is a valuable commodity becasue nobody can do it. Although it is embarrassing that the guy was injured while rounding the bases on a HR trot.
 
hockeybeat said:
Giambi had no choice but to go along with Bud Selig's decree. Is he doing the right thing morally? Yes. Is he going to hurt his career? Yes. Once he admits what he has done, the Yankees and their lawyers will void his contact.

Not a chance. He won't say anything that would jeopordize his contract. He's talkng from a position of strength - he & the union dictated the terms of the conversation.
 
I think I saw this scenario on The Shield when Kavanaugh went after Lem to get to Vic Mackie. Head for Mexico Jason.
 
hockeybeat said:
Yeah, teams are going to want to sign a guy who can't run the bases or field his position and is an admitted steroid cheat.

If the Mets signed a schlub like Guillermo Mota AFTER he was busted for 'roids, what makes you think some other club won't do the same? I think he'll be back with some other AL club. Maybe he'll go back to Oakland or Anaheim, albeit at a significantly reduced cost.
 
The negotiations that brought Giambi and Mitchell to the table have taken weeks. Therefore, the terms and conditions of the discussion and its impact have been negotiated well in advance.
The Yankees will not void Giambi's contract. Why not?
1) When he gets off the DL, he will resume hitting homers.
2) The players union never surrenders and never loses.
What will happen if the Yanks seek to invalidate the contract?
1) Giambi will receive any and all back pay and all future pay. At least.
2) The Yankees will be without a power-hitting player in their quest to make the playoffs.
MLB will never be complicit in anything that might tend to harm the Yankees' quest for the playoffs and a postseason series with the Red Sox.
 
boots said:
It's blackmail.

If it were, the players union never would have agreed to the terms set for this meeting.
 
Giambi is not going to tell Mitchell anything he didn't already tell the BALCO grand jury and USA Today.
He is not going to implicate any other player. He is only going to talk about his own using.
In exchange for the appearance of Mitchell/Selig finally having gotten a player to cooperate with them, Giambi will not be fined or suspended, the Yankees will make no attempt to discipline him or void his contract, Giambi will again offer an apology for "what I did" without ever saying in public what he did.

In other words, nothing new here.
 
tapintoamerica said:
The negotiations that brought Giambi and Mitchell to the table have taken weeks. Therefore, the terms and conditions of the discussion and its impact have been negotiated well in advance.
The Yankees will not void Giambi's contract. Why not?
1) When he gets off the DL, he will resume hitting homers.
So, we're just to blindly believe he'll come off the DL and start hammering balls out of ballparks? Giambi hit seven home runs in the 45 games he has played this season. That's an average of one homer every six games. Multiply that by 162, he'd finish with 23 homers. He's projected to play 137 games, homering 21 times, an average of one home run every 6.5 at-bats.

Mark Kriegel's new Foxsports.com column:

We know about Giambi; what about Bud?
Mark Kriegel
FOXSports.com, Updated 13 hours ago

After agreeing to meet with Senator George Mitchell and not rat out his colleagues, Jason Giambi released a statement:

"The commissioner impressed upon me the idea that the game of baseball would be best served by such a meeting. I will continue to do what I think is right and be candid about my past history regarding steroids. I have never blamed anyone nor intended to deflect blame for my conduct."
This is wonderful news, for only in Major League Baseball could a recovering steroid abuser qualify as a standup guy.

But here's the real question: could Commissioner Bud Selig make the same statement? Everybody who cares to know has a pretty good idea of Giambi's history with performance-enhancing drugs. Four years ago, he testified before a federal grand jury, supplying a narrative that appears in Mark Fainaru-Wada and Lance Williams' blockbuster, Game of Shadows. Much less is known about Selig's past history regarding steroids. For the good of the game, the sport whose honor Selig is bound to protect, it's time to know.

Giambi's recent ordeal began last month when he was quoted in USA Today, saying, basically, that he was sorry for doing steroids, that both players and owners bore responsibility, and that they should have apologized long ago. Unfortunately, he added, no one wanted to deal with the issue, much less acknowledge it.

I found these sentiments praiseworthy and unassailable, but Selig, whose tenure as commissioner coincides rather neatly with baseball's steroid era, thought otherwise. He wanted Giambi to testify before Mitchell — who owns a piece of the Boston Red Sox — or be punished, meaning anything from suspension to abrogation of his contract. Understand that the commissioner has not threatened any other player this way. Giambi was finding out the hard way that baseball can't handle the truth it claims to be seeking.

As it happens, the USA Today piece was written by Bob Nightengale. Twelve years ago, while covering baseball for the Los Angeles Times and The Sporting News, Nightengale wrote that steroids were "becoming an epidemic in baseball."

He wasn't the only baseball writer who raised the issue. But he was among the few. He quoted general managers and players, pitchers and hitters. He also quoted the acting commissioner.

"If baseball has a problem," Selig told Nightengale in 1995, "I must say candidly that we were not aware of it. It certainly hasn't been talked about much. But should we concern ourselves as an industry? I don't know, maybe it's time to bring it up again."

Again? Selig was referring to an owners meeting in 1994. It went nowhere then. It went nowhere the following year, and remained nowhere until the new milennium. In 1998, even as Mark McGwire began hitting home runs and selling tickets at a pace previously thought impossible, it became a taboo subject.

Of speculation regarding McGwire's testosterone-boosting supplements and what the commissioner called "a storybook year," Selig said: "None of this should ever diminish from Mark McGwire's extraordinary season."

Baseball kept denying the obvious. On July 28, 2000, Selig's executive vice president for baseball operations, Sandy Alderson, was quoted as saying that some steroid use had been found in the minors, but not the big leagues. "(It) hasn't really been a problem and it's not clear that it's a problem today," Alderson said. "I think there's a total absence of that."

Total absence? For years that was the party line. Now Selig likes to say that baseball has the toughest steroid testing policy of any major sport. It's 2007, though, and baseball fans have a right to know more than that.

Where was he all those years?

If Giambi has to explain himself, then the commissioner should, too.

He'll get the chance, if he hasn't already. In a statement, Senator George Mitchell said, "While it has been my policy not to comment on the details of (the) investigation, I can say that the investigation will include interviews of Commissioner Selig as well as former Commissioners of baseball."

You wonder, though, will Selig be as honest as Giambi?

Will he, for the first time in this entire steroids saga, be a standup guy?

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6948564
 
the thing that most people seem to be glossing over is that NOTHING IS FORCING GIAMBI TO ACTUALLY SAY ANYTHING OF SUBSTANCE IN HIS MEETING WITH MITCHELL. he's not under oath and you can bet they won't be releasing transcripts. it's a meeting. big ****ing deal.

kriegel is right. mitchell should interview selig, not the players.
 
leo1 said:
the thing that most people seem to be glossing over is that NOTHING IS FORCING GIAMBI TO ACTUALLY SAY ANYTHING OF SUBSTANCE IN HIS MEETING WITH MITCHELL. he's not under oath and you can bet they won't be releasing transcripts. it's a meeting. big ****ing deal.

kriegel is right. mitchell should interview selig, not the players.

Selig has tried to position himself as being above the fray and he appointed a friend of the club owners to run the investigation in his efforts to ensure he and club owners wouldn't be found culpable.

Mitchell is a board member for the Red Sox, a reliable ally as a member of the Commissioner's Blue Ribbon Panel on Economics, and someone who has been rumored as interested in the Commissioner job. You can't get much more conflicted than that.

It's ridiculous that anyone is taking this seriously and you have to ask why this obvious conflict is totally ignored by much (but certainly not all) of the news media.
 
cranberry said:
leo1 said:
the thing that most people seem to be glossing over is that NOTHING IS FORCING GIAMBI TO ACTUALLY SAY ANYTHING OF SUBSTANCE IN HIS MEETING WITH MITCHELL. he's not under oath and you can bet they won't be releasing transcripts. it's a meeting. big ****ing deal.

kriegel is right. mitchell should interview selig, not the players.

Selig has tried to position himself as being above the fray and he appointed a friend of the club owners to run the investigation in his efforts to ensure he and club owners wouldn't be found culpable.

Mitchell is a board member for the Red Sox, a reliable ally as a member of the Commissioner's Blue Ribbon Panel on Economics, and someone who has been rumored as interested in the Commissioner job. You can't get much more conflicted than that.

It's ridiculous that anyone is taking this seriously and you have to ask why this obvious conflict is totally ignored by much (but certainly not all) of the news media.

I agree cranberry....I.m surprised more isn't being made about Mitchell being a Board member for the Red Sox.
 

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