Ines returns to Jets practice

[hondo]

http://deadspin.com/5840245/

Sorry guys. No, she's not "asking for it" in terms of inappropriate comments or sexual harassment or certainly not in the physical sense.

But she's certainly asking for attention. At this point, she's no different than Jen Sterger.

 

[Tarheel316]

This thread is going to be fun ...

 

[imjustagirl]

Those don't look like four-inch heels to me.

 

[shockey]

in terms of being any sort of 'female journalist,' this woman is a joke. a fine looking joke, sure, but a joke nonetheless who is disdained by the very legit, very good and very focused female reporters who have to put up with her shameless act. if they mock her themselves, they're just being catty, right? every time she shows up at a field or a game or in a locker room she sets back every stride women have worked so hard to gain in the eyes of the masses.

 

[Gator]

Please reset the game clock to 15 minutes ...

 

[LongTimeListener]

Now THAT is a Kickin' Sweet Live Ass.

Wait, this isn't the SI thread?

 

[Mediator]

"if they mock her themselves, they're just being catty, right? every time she shows up at a field or a game or in a locker room she sets back every stride women have worked so hard to gain in the eyes of the masses."

Shockey, that is pretty much what a woman said to me as we stood together on the Jets sideline this morning.

 

[Cubbiebum]

http://deadspin.com/5840245/

Sorry guys. No, she's not "asking for it" in terms of inappropriate comments or sexual harassment or certainly not in the physical sense.

But she's certainly asking for attention. At this point, she's no different than Jen Sterger.

Can you explain how Sterger is like this?

 

[Elliotte Friedman]

Had a really interesting chat with someone about Sainz months after last year's gong show. He said that, if you watch Spanish-language news/sports shows, well, this is the way their women are dressed.

Very flamboyant. Very look-at-me. Very "If I've got it, I'm going to flaunt it."

That's just the way it is. I'm personally not a fan of it, because I agree with Mediator's compatriot about what it does for the other women, especially since this really isn't tolerated by mainstream North American outlets anymore.

But when it comes to Univision or Azteca Deportes, that's not going to be changing anytime soon, if ever.

 

[21]

I'm always amazed by the tremors caused by women who appear to be, you know, women. She's wearing a dress and heels that are appropriate for her audience and network. Other than wondering how those heels look after they've been sinking into a grass field after a good rain, I think she looks very nice. A tad flashy for her US colleagues, but that's okay.

Maybe I've just been around it too long, but I'm really over the whole 'one of THOSE women ruins it for everyone else.' That's just dumb. You represent yourself, that's it.

I swear, some of our colleagues won't be happy until we all look like Pat from SNL.

 

[The Big Ragu]

Had a really interesting chat with someone about Sainz months after last year's gong show. He said that, if you watch Spanish-language news/sports shows, well, this is the way their women are dressed.

Very flamboyant. Very look-at-me. Very "If I've got it, I'm going to flaunt it."

That's just the way it is. I'm personally not a fan of it, because I agree with Mediator's compatriot about what it does for the other women, especially since this really isn't tolerated by mainstream North American outlets anymore.

But when it comes to Univision or Azteca Deportes, that's not going to be changing anytime soon, if ever.

When I was in college and we got maybe 10 channels, I used to watch Univision (or was it Telemundo?) all the time. I don't know how it is now, but EVERY show had the hot woman dressed in skimpy outfits. Even the damned children's shows were hosted by hot women in skimpy outfits. The game show always had a short fat guy hosting. ... with a hot woman dressed in a skimpy outfit as his sidekick. And the soap operas? Lots of hot women dressed in skimpy outfits.

I couldn't get enough of it.

 

[Elliotte Friedman]

21,

I used to think the same way, until I saw Lisa Olson confront Meredith Vieira at the 2001 World Series. Was right next to it, by fluke.

Changed my opinion.

 

[Moderator1]

21,

I used to think the same way, until I saw Lisa Olson confront Meredith Vieira at the 2001 World Series. Was right next to it, by fluke.

Changed my opinion.

Say what? The confrontation, not your opinion.

Lisa helped me with a story I did here last week, reminded me how much I miss working with her and my other ex-FanHousers. Not that it has anything to do with this story.

 

[Elliotte Friedman]

Vieira was working for The View then (I think). She showed up during batting practice for one of the games at Shea with a cameraman.

It was one of those "funny" kind of things. I watched her "interview" Mike Piazza, asking things like, "Who has the biggest wood on the Mets." I didn't really know Lisa then, but I knew who she was. She went right at Vieira, asked what she was doing and said that stuff really hurt female reporters.

Vieira told her to "lighten up." The conversation continued, but I had to step away to do a live hit. It continued for a few minutes. It was a real eye-opener, that's for sure.

 

[shockey]

21,

I used to think the same way, until I saw Lisa Olson confront Meredith Vieira at the 2001 World Series. Was right next to it, by fluke.

Changed my opinion.

21, i've worked with several very attractive women, including lisa and kim jones, who managed to dress in a professional way not at all intended to bring unwelcomed attention to themselves or distract anyone from thinking they were on the job for anything beyond the assignment. it's the way female tv reporters dress for mexican tv? fine. when in rome, when on an assignment in another country, try adapting to the realities and preferences here. save your basic attire for the studio. but when dealing with american athletes in the u.s., quiet your attire down.

the women i've mentioned and hundreds of others don't dress like 'pat' and manage to be viewed as very attractive. and if you don't think the vast majority of female journos cringe at ines' act, i'd say you've become a tad out of touch with most of the tenets they try to work by.

 

[gingerbread]

Vieira was working for The View then (I think). She showed up during batting practice for one of the games at Shea with a cameraman.

It was one of those "funny" kind of things. I watched her "interview" Mike Piazza, asking things like, "Who has the biggest wood on the Mets." I didn't really know Lisa then, but I knew who she was. She went right at Vieira, asked what she was doing and said that stuff really hurt female reporters.

Vieira told her to "lighten up." The conversation continued, but I had to step away to do a live hit. It continued for a few minutes. It was a real eye-opener, that's for sure.

It was the 2000 World Series, Yanks v. Mets.
I only spoke to Meredith because Benny Agbayani and Jay Payton of the Mets asked me to. They were upset with her for asking them which player had the biggest bat -- you know, typical grade school innuendo. I thought I was polite to Meredith, and just tried to explain that she more than most should understand how difficult those kind of questions made it for those of us who had worked hard to overcome such silly stereotypes.
I never wrote about it, but others like Sally Jenkins did. And while I used to believe that anything another woman in this biz does reflects on all of us, I long ago softened that position. I just can't be bothered to stress over someone's tight dress.

 

[Armchair_QB]

This is actually pretty tame compared to her Super Bowl media day outfit.

That said, she IS dressed professionally for the culture she works in and I don't mean that as a joke. As has already been pointed out the standards are different in Latin America. Not wrong, just different.

 

[hondo]

This is actually pretty tame compared to her Super Bowl media day outfit.

That said, she IS dressed professionally for the culture she works in and I don't mean that as a joke. As has already been pointed out the standards are different in Latin America. Not wrong, just different.

But the NFL doesn't have a team in Latin America yet. I know male sportswriters who are in fine physical shape, work out, run, all of that. They don't show up for a practice in tank-tops, Under-Armour shirts 2 sizes too small to show off pecs and pipes or running shorts.

 

[Armchair_QB]

This is actually pretty tame compared to her Super Bowl media day outfit.

That said, she IS dressed professionally for the culture she works in and I don't mean that as a joke. As has already been pointed out the standards are different in Latin America. Not wrong, just different.

But the NFL doesn't have a team in Latin America yet. I know male sportswriters who are in fine physical shape, work out, run, all of that. They don't show up for a practice in tank-tops, Under-Armour shirts 2 sizes too small to show off pecs and pipes or running shorts.

Understand your point but we don't make tourists from overseas dress like Americans when they come to visit.

Broadcasters aren't the only women who dress this way in Latin America. It's just a cultural thing.

 

[playthrough]

Vieira was working for The View then (I think). She showed up during batting practice for one of the games at Shea with a cameraman.

It was one of those "funny" kind of things. I watched her "interview" Mike Piazza, asking things like, "Who has the biggest wood on the Mets." I didn't really know Lisa then, but I knew who she was. She went right at Vieira, asked what she was doing and said that stuff really hurt female reporters.

Vieira told her to "lighten up." The conversation continued, but I had to step away to do a live hit. It continued for a few minutes. It was a real eye-opener, that's for sure.

It was the 2000 World Series, Yanks v. Mets.
I only spoke to Meredith because Benny Agbayani and Jay Payton of the Mets asked me to. They were upset with her for asking them which player had the biggest bat -- you know, typical grade school innuendo. I thought I was polite to Meredith, and just tried to explain that she more than most should understand how difficult those kind of questions made it for those of us who had worked hard to overcome such silly stereotypes.
I never wrote about it, but others like Sally Jenkins did. And while I used to believe that anything another woman in this biz does reflects on all of us, I long ago softened that position. I just can't be bothered to stress over someone's tight dress.

If I can ask, why did you soften your position? The (blank)-reflects-on-all-of-us principle still seems to be alive, such as at those media days a couple months ago when that dope asked for the Iowa (?) coach's autograph for his girlfriend or the guy who cheered in the press box at the Daytona 500. The moron quotient seems to be getting larger all the time.

Then again, I can see why getting worked up over this can get exhausting.