If the Mets could ...

[Columbo]

Worth dredging up again.

 

[hockeybeat]

Worth dredging up again.

National League standings as of 12:10 P.M.

National League East Division
Team W L Pct GB Home Road L10 Strk Magic #
Mets 79 49 .617 - 42-23 37-26 8-2 W1 20
Phillies 65 64 .504 14 ½ 33-35 32-29 6-4 L1 49
Marlins 63 66 .488 16 ½ 34-30 29-36 8-2 W7 51
Braves 61 68 .473 18 ½ 28-34 33-34 6-4 W2 53
Nationals 55 75 .423 25 30-30 25-45 2-8 L2 59

National League Central Division
Team W L Pct GB Home Road L10 Strk Magic #
Cardinals 69 60 .535 - 38-24 31-36 6-4 W3 30
Reds 67 64 .511 3 35-33 32-31 5-5 L3 36
Astros 63 68 .481 7 34-31 29-37 5-5 W3 40
Brewers 62 68 .477 7 ½ 39-26 23-42 5-5 L3 41
Cubs 54 76 .415 15 ½ 27-36 27-40 2-8 L3 49
Pirates 50 81 .382 20 33-33 17-48 4-6 L3 53
National League West Division
Team W L Pct GB Home Road L10 Strk Magic #
Dodgers 68 62 .523 - 39-26 29-36 4-6 W2 31
Padres 66 64 .508 2 33-36 33-28 6-4 L1 35
Giants 65 66 .496 3 ½ 38-31 27-35 7-3 W3 36
Diamondbacks 63 67 .485 5 31-33 32-34 2-8 L2 38
Rockies 61 69 .469 7 34-30 27-39 3-7 W1 40

x-clinched division
y-clinched playoff spot

I'll also point out that only the Tigers have a better record than New York's National League team.

 

[Trust NoOne]

Worth dredging up again.

Not really. Oh, and it's Anibal Sanchez. Not Anibel. And yeah, they've got some talent — but all of 'em have good nights and bad nights and are playing under zero pressure, zero expectation. Let's see what any of 'em other than Willis do with 50,000 rocking Shea and a playoff series on the line. Sorry, I'll take the old guys who've been then and know how to show up when it's show time.

And for the long haul, the Mets have John Maine, Brian Bannister, Mike Pelfrey, Phil Humber and Oliver Perez. And a lot of cash to sign a FA this offseason. And way out there on the horizon: Deolis Guerra — 17 and pitching in the Florida State League.

 

[Flying Headbutt]

I'll also point out that only the Tigers have a better record than New York's National League team.

It's not really fair to compare when the Mets are playing teams mostly comprised of 4-A players, while the Tigers, Twins, White Sox, Yankees etc. have to play real major leaguers all the time.

 

[Columbo]

Worth dredging up again.

National League standings as of 12:10 P.M.

National League East Division
Team W L Pct GB Home Road L10 Strk Magic #
Mets 79 49 .617 - 42-23 37-26 8-2 W1 20
Phillies 65 64 .504 14 ½ 33-35 32-29 6-4 L1 49
Marlins 63 66 .488 16 ½ 34-30 29-36 8-2 W7 51
Braves 61 68 .473 18 ½ 28-34 33-34 6-4 W2 53
Nationals 55 75 .423 25 30-30 25-45 2-8 L2 59

National League Central Division
Team W L Pct GB Home Road L10 Strk Magic #
Cardinals 69 60 .535 - 38-24 31-36 6-4 W3 30
Reds 67 64 .511 3 35-33 32-31 5-5 L3 36
Astros 63 68 .481 7 34-31 29-37 5-5 W3 40
Brewers 62 68 .477 7 ½ 39-26 23-42 5-5 L3 41
Cubs 54 76 .415 15 ½ 27-36 27-40 2-8 L3 49
Pirates 50 81 .382 20 33-33 17-48 4-6 L3 53
National League West Division
Team W L Pct GB Home Road L10 Strk Magic #
Dodgers 68 62 .523 - 39-26 29-36 4-6 W2 31
Padres 66 64 .508 2 33-36 33-28 6-4 L1 35
Giants 65 66 .496 3 ½ 38-31 27-35 7-3 W3 36
Diamondbacks 63 67 .485 5 31-33 32-34 2-8 L2 38
Rockies 61 69 .469 7 34-30 27-39 3-7 W1 40

x-clinched division
y-clinched playoff spot

I'll also point out that only the Tigers have a better record than New York's National League team.

The question wasn't whether the Mets would trade hitters with the Marlins.

 

[Columbo]

Worth dredging up again.

Not really. Oh, and it's Anibal Sanchez. Not Anibel. And yeah, they've got some talent — but all of 'em have good nights and bad nights and are playing under zero pressure, zero expectation. Let's see what any of 'em other than Willis do with 50,000 rocking Shea and a playoff series on the line. Sorry, I'll take the old guys who've been then and know how to show up when it's show time.

And for the long haul, the Mets have John Maine, Brian Bannister, Mike Pelfrey, Phil Humber and Oliver Perez. And a lot of cash to sign a FA this offseason. And way out there on the horizon: Deolis Guerra — 17 and pitching in the Florida State League.

The Mets would absolutely trade starting fives with the Marlins straight up even if it were ONLY for the next two months.

If you don't believe it, you've got an incurable case of NY myopia.

 

[BYH]

All this talk about swapping rotations and such will be really funny when the Mets are waxed in four games in the NLDS.

 

[Oz]

All I know is, if healthy, the Mets would be fine. But who's ever healthy when you're five months into the season?

 

[Columbo]

Glavine in postseason: 12-10, 3.58 ERA, all accrued in NL. Career regular-season ERA: 3.44.
Martinez in postseason: 5-3, 3.40 ERA, all accrued in AL. Career regular-season ERA: 2.72

 

[spnited]

All this talk about swapping rotations and such will be really funny when the Mets are waxed in four games in the NLDS.

By who, the Padres who they beat the **** out of? Or the Reds, who they beat the **** out of? Or the Cards who they beat the **** out of?

 

[Columbo]

All this talk about swapping rotations and such will be really funny when the Mets are waxed in four games in the NLDS.

By who, the Padres who they beat the **** out of? Or the Reds, who they beat the **** out of? Or the Cards who they beat the **** out of?

Either the Astros or Marlins get that wild-card spot. No way it's the Reds or Padres.

And the Mets would have majore trouble against either of those teams, though I suppose they wouldn't play the Marlins.

 

[spnited]

All this talk about swapping rotations and such will be really funny when the Mets are waxed in four games in the NLDS.

By who, the Padres who they beat the **** out of? Or the Reds, who they beat the **** out of? Or the Cards who they beat the **** out of?

Either the Astros or Marlins get that wild-card spot. No way it's the Reds or Padres.

And the Mets would have majore trouble against either of those teams, though I suppose they wouldn't play the Marlins.

It would be nice if the Sros or Marlins got to .500 first before who statr giving one of home the wind card.
I believe the Stros are about 7th right now and they're not going anywhere.

 

[hockeybeat]

All this talk about swapping rotations and such will be really funny when the Mets are waxed in four games in the NLDS.

By who, the Padres who they beat the **** out of? Or the Reds, who they beat the **** out of? Or the Cards who they beat the **** out of?

Either the Astros or Marlins get that wild-card spot. No way it's the Reds or Padres.

And the Mets would have majore trouble against either of those teams, though I suppose they wouldn't play the Marlins.

I'm ashamed that I have contributed to this monumentally stupid thread. I'm even more ashamed that I will make one last contribution to this thread.

There is one National League team that could beat the Mets in the playoffs. That team is the L.A. Dodgers. The Reds, Astros, Marlins, Cards and Padres don't have a snowball's chance in hell to beat the Mets.

And with that, I bid this thread adieu...

 

[Columbo]

All this talk about swapping rotations and such will be really funny when the Mets are waxed in four games in the NLDS.

By who, the Padres who they beat the **** out of? Or the Reds, who they beat the **** out of? Or the Cards who they beat the **** out of?

Either the Astros or Marlins get that wild-card spot. No way it's the Reds or Padres.

And the Mets would have majore trouble against either of those teams, though I suppose they wouldn't play the Marlins.

I'm ashamed that I have contributed to this monumentally stupid thread. I'm even more ashamed that I will make one last contribution to this thread.

There is one National League team that could beat the Mets in the playoffs. That team is the L.A. Dodgers. The Reds, Astros, Marlins, Cards and Padres don't have a snowball's chance in hell to beat the Mets.

And with that, I bid this thread adieu...

Man, you are delusional.

 

[Guy_Incognito]

In a 5 game series, there's no such thing. KC just swept the Sox & did it to the Yanks last year. One bad break, one mini-slump, an SP with a head cold & your season's over.

 

[BYH]

In a 5 game series, there's no such thing. KC just swept the Sox & did it to the Yanks last year. One bad break, one mini-slump, an SP with a head cold & your season's over.

There's that, and I just don't think the Mets are that good. Watching them dominate the NL is a lot like watching Matt Dillon win at football in "Something About Mary."

Special my ass.

 

[Columbo]

In a 5 game series, there's no such thing. KC just swept the Sox & did it to the Yanks last year. One bad break, one mini-slump, an SP with a head cold & your season's over.

There's that, and I just don't think the Mets are that good. Watching them dominate the NL is a lot like watching Matt Dillon win at football in "Something About Mary."

Special my ass.

Special... or exceptional?

Hilarious line

 

[BYH]

****, I think it was exceptional. My bad.

 

[broadway joe]

All this talk about swapping rotations and such will be really funny when the Mets are waxed in four games in the NLDS.

By who, the Padres who they beat the **** out of? Or the Reds, who they beat the **** out of? Or the Cards who they beat the **** out of?

Either the Astros or Marlins get that wild-card spot. No way it's the Reds or Padres.

And the Mets would have majore trouble against either of those teams, though I suppose they wouldn't play the Marlins.

I'm ashamed that I have contributed to this monumentally stupid thread. I'm even more ashamed that I will make one last contribution to this thread.

There is one National League team that could beat the Mets in the playoffs. That team is the L.A. Dodgers. The Reds, Astros, Marlins, Cards and Padres don't have a snowball's chance in hell to beat the Mets.

And with that, I bid this thread adieu...

Gotta agree with hockeybeat. Everybody seems to be focusing on the Mets' shortcomings without paying attention to their strong points. Their pitching is iffy, but so is everybody else's, with the exception of the Astros, who can't hit, and the Dodgers, who don't put as strong a lineup out there as the Mets. And by the way, the Dodgers' starting pitching doesn't blow me away, either. If you think Glavine's shaky, you'd have to say the same about Maddux. Which leaves you Penny and Lowe, fine pitchers, but hardly the type that's likely to shut down the NY offense. The Mets have pounded everybody all year with this pitching staff. There's no reason to believe they won't continue to do the same in October.

Hard to believe for a NY team, but the Mets are underrated. They're playing in a weak league, so their accomplishments are undervalued. They're 30 games over .500. How much better than that could the Tigers or White Sox or Twins possibly be if they played in the NL? The Mets are almost certainly going to the Series, and they'll be a handful for whoever they play when they get there.

 

[Columbo]

All this talk about swapping rotations and such will be really funny when the Mets are waxed in four games in the NLDS.

By who, the Padres who they beat the **** out of? Or the Reds, who they beat the **** out of? Or the Cards who they beat the **** out of?

Either the Astros or Marlins get that wild-card spot. No way it's the Reds or Padres.

And the Mets would have majore trouble against either of those teams, though I suppose they wouldn't play the Marlins.

I'm ashamed that I have contributed to this monumentally stupid thread. I'm even more ashamed that I will make one last contribution to this thread.

There is one National League team that could beat the Mets in the playoffs. That team is the L.A. Dodgers. The Reds, Astros, Marlins, Cards and Padres don't have a snowball's chance in hell to beat the Mets.

And with that, I bid this thread adieu...

Gotta agree with hockeybeat. Everybody seems to be focusing on the Mets' shortcomings without paying attention to their strong points. Their pitching is iffy, but so is everybody else's, with the exception of the Astros, who can't hit, and the Dodgers, who don't put as strong a lineup out there as the Mets.

Marlins pitching is right there, too.