How will conference shuffling affect the print media?

[Johnny Chase]

All this stuff with changing conferences got me to thinking, how will all this affect newspapers and whether they travel to a road game or not?

Obviously College Station, Tx. isn't too far from the rest of the Big 12, while in the SEC there will have to be more and more flights. Is the College Station newspaper going to be able to cover road games?

Should Kansas move to the Big East like has been rumored, can the Lawrence Journal-World afford to fly all over the place out there?

What about the Norman Transcript should Oklahoma move to the Pac-12?

Obviously the Morning News and Star-Telegram will still follow TCU around, I'm just worried that all the traveling will be too much for the smaller papers.

 

[Jake_Taylor]

I don't know about every small paper, but the Norman Transcript seems to be good about traveling with OU. They were the only Oklahoma paper that came out to Virginia year before last when OU played in the baseball Super Regional. They were back again in March for the women's basketball tournament along with The Oklahoman, but Tulsa and other papers in the state didn't make the trip.

Maybe if OU goes to a different conference they have to cut out some of those trips for minor sports, I have no idea, but I'd guess they would find the cash to travel for football and men's hoops.

The Lawrence Journal-World is locally owned and seems to have good resources. In the Big East a lot of their basketball games would presumably be at DePaul, Marquette, Notre Dame, etc. (And possibly K-State, Iowa State or Missouri if those schools landed in the Big East too). Those trips wouldn't be much different than College Station or Lubbock.

 

[flexmaster33]

The trend seems to be send someone for the big events and hire a freelancer in the host city for the typical gamer stuff.

 

[Versatile]

The trend seems to be send someone for the big events and hire a freelancer in the host city for the typical gamer stuff.

I've seen this trend in metro papers, but what about the Lawrence Journal-Worlds and Norman Transcripts, as were mentioned by the OP. Sure, it makes sense for the Times-Picayune to hire a freelancer in Virginia if VTech joins the SEC, but could the Athens Banner-Herald afford to do the same? These papers in college towns sell themselves for their coverage of those college sports teams. Not having a reporter at a football or men's basketball seems unthinkable. Maybe nothing is these days. I know the Iowa City Press-Citizen and Des Moines Register, both Gannett papers, combined forces on a few Iowa basketball games last season by just sending one reporter. I believe they each had their own guy at every football game, but shared the content.

 

[Stitch]

What does this do for outlying papers that try to play the "big boy" role, but only send a writer to home football games and nothing else?

 

[da man]

All this stuff with changing conferences got me to thinking, how will all this affect newspapers and whether they travel to a road game or not?

Obviously College Station, Tx. isn't too far from the rest of the Big 12, while in the SEC there will have to be more and more flights. Is the College Station newspaper going to be able to cover road games?

Should Kansas move to the Big East like has been rumored, can the Lawrence Journal-World afford to fly all over the place out there?

What about the Norman Transcript should Oklahoma move to the Pac-12?

Obviously the Morning News and Star-Telegram will still follow TCU around, I'm just worried that all the traveling will be too much for the smaller papers.

The DMN hasn't followed TCU around in years.

 

[fishwrapper]

More layoffs and further reliance on wires?

 

[Jake_Taylor]

You know, I tend to believe the college town papers are doing better financially than a lot of metros and small-town dailies. Athens, Lawrence, Boulder, Norman, etc. are going to draw a lot more eyeballs than a typical daily in a town of 70-150,000 people just because of the college teams, but the operating costs can't be as huge as a metro.

Take Athens and Atlanta. The UGA beat might be the biggest at both papers, it's certainly up there at the AJC. So Athens is getting a ton of people reading their Bulldogs stuff, but don't have to spend the money to also cover Georgia Tech, the Falcons, the Braves, the Hawks, until recently the Thrashers, small colleges, hundreds of high schools, etc.

Of course, I haven't studied the numbers to back this up, but anecdotal evidence shows college town papers have more money to throw around and haven't been hit as badly by cuts in recent years.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

I think the smaller college papers are a lot smarter about travel than the bigger papers.

I look at the amount of $$$ spent on certain travel when I was at the bigger papers and so much of it was just a complete waste. I was at papers that sent 25 people to cover a Super Bowl. **** like that is just ****ing stupid. I was at a paper that spent a couple grand on airfare so I wouldn't miss a NBA preseason game that was being played in small cities on back-to-back nights.

We'd send six guys to NFL games and some of the people there would write nothing more than a 12-inch sider.

College papers can't do things that stupid because they have to be smarter about how they spend their money.

 

[Johnny Chase]

All this stuff with changing conferences got me to thinking, how will all this affect newspapers and whether they travel to a road game or not?

Obviously College Station, Tx. isn't too far from the rest of the Big 12, while in the SEC there will have to be more and more flights. Is the College Station newspaper going to be able to cover road games?

Should Kansas move to the Big East like has been rumored, can the Lawrence Journal-World afford to fly all over the place out there?

What about the Norman Transcript should Oklahoma move to the Pac-12?

Obviously the Morning News and Star-Telegram will still follow TCU around, I'm just worried that all the traveling will be too much for the smaller papers.

The DMN hasn't followed TCU around in years.

Wow, I figured with them having so much success recently the DMN would be at every game. Obviously there not as big as Texas and aTm, but still.

 

[John]

You know, I tend to believe the college town papers are doing better financially than a lot of metros and small-town dailies. Athens, Lawrence, Boulder, Norman, etc. are going to draw a lot more eyeballs than a typical daily in a town of 70-150,000 people just because of the college teams, but the operating costs can't be as huge as a metro.

Take Athens and Atlanta. The UGA beat might be the biggest at both papers, it's certainly up there at the AJC. So Athens is getting a ton of people reading their Bulldogs stuff, but don't have to spend the money to also cover Georgia Tech, the Falcons, the Braves, the Hawks, until recently the Thrashers, small colleges, hundreds of high schools, etc.

Of course, I haven't studied the numbers to back this up, but anecdotal evidence shows college town papers have more money to throw around and haven't been hit as badly by cuts in recent years.

Athens has been cut plenty, both in terms of staff and how many folks they send to UGA games. Of course Morris Communications' ineptitude has something to do with that.

We used to take one of the Morris planes to far-away games like LSU, with three or four writers and a couple of photogs on board. We'd fly down the morning of and fly back after we were done writing.

In the SEC the big cuts have come in basketball coverage, not football. I think only a few papers send writers to all conference road hoops games these days. Heck, about seven years ago I was going to every UGA women's hoops road game.

 

[Jake_Taylor]

I didn't mean to suggest the college town papers weren't suffering cuts at all, just that they don't seem to be torn to shreds at quite the same level.

In the chain I used to work for there's a paper in a BCS conference town. The staff is quite a bit smaller than it was five years ago, but they still have a sports editor, two beat writers and a columnist with a stable of stringers doing high schools.

A similar sized paper in the same chain and the same state has one guy in sports trying to cover a bunch of high schools, a D-III college, a minor league baseball team and a couple of local race tracks.

 

[Versatile]

I didn't mean to suggest the college town papers weren't suffering cuts at all, just that they don't seem to be torn to shreds at quite the same level.

In the chain I used to work for there's a paper in a BCS conference town. The staff is quite a bit smaller than it was five years ago, but they still have a sports editor, two beat writers and a columnist with a stable of stringers doing high schools.

A similar sized paper in the same chain and the same state has one guy in sports trying to cover a bunch of high schools, a D-III college, a minor league baseball team and a couple of local race tracks.

I don't think it's the newspapers themselves as much as those newspapers' priorities. A paper in a BCS-conference school's town would be more inclined to cut news coverage for sports coverage than a paper where the biggest sports draws are a D-III football program and a minor league team.

 

[Armchair_QB]

All this stuff with changing conferences got me to thinking, how will all this affect newspapers and whether they travel to a road game or not?

Obviously College Station, Tx. isn't too far from the rest of the Big 12, while in the SEC there will have to be more and more flights. Is the College Station newspaper going to be able to cover road games?

Should Kansas move to the Big East like has been rumored, can the Lawrence Journal-World afford to fly all over the place out there?

What about the Norman Transcript should Oklahoma move to the Pac-12?

Obviously the Morning News and Star-Telegram will still follow TCU around, I'm just worried that all the traveling will be too much for the smaller papers.

The DMN hasn't followed TCU around in years.

Wow, I figured with them having so much success recently the DMN would be at every game. Obviously there not as big as Texas and aTm, but still.

TCU football doesn't approach the popularity of UT baseball in the Metroplex. That's why I always laugh at people from out of state who think TCU is an equal replacement for A&M in in the Big 12 in terms of popularity.

TCU doesn't have anywhere near that kind of support and it never will.

 

[Shaggy]

Lawrence typically travels 3 to most football/basketball games (2 writers and a photog). If anything, they'd leave the columnist at home.

They would never not staff a game, though. That paper, like most college-town papers, revolves around the school.

 

[Blitz]

Papers will simply continue sharing stories for really long road trips, while the Monday pressers and lots of practices and all home games will continue to be staffed by everyone. I don't forsee that much change in the routines at print outlets.

 

[da man]

All this stuff with changing conferences got me to thinking, how will all this affect newspapers and whether they travel to a road game or not?

Obviously College Station, Tx. isn't too far from the rest of the Big 12, while in the SEC there will have to be more and more flights. Is the College Station newspaper going to be able to cover road games?

Should Kansas move to the Big East like has been rumored, can the Lawrence Journal-World afford to fly all over the place out there?

What about the Norman Transcript should Oklahoma move to the Pac-12?

Obviously the Morning News and Star-Telegram will still follow TCU around, I'm just worried that all the traveling will be too much for the smaller papers.

The DMN hasn't followed TCU around in years.

Wow, I figured with them having so much success recently the DMN would be at every game. Obviously there not as big as Texas and aTm, but still.

TCU football doesn't approach the popularity of UT baseball in the Metroplex. That's why I always laugh at people from out of state who think TCU is an equal replacement for A&M in in the Big 12 in terms of popularity.

TCU doesn't have anywhere near that kind of support and it never will.

TCU has for several years been a top-10 football team that couldn't fill its 44,000-seat stadium. They sold out a grand total of one home game in the 2008 and '09 seasons combined, and that was when College GameDay came to town for the Utah game. Last season was a little better -- they sold out three of their six home dates, including the last two, against Air Force and San Diego State. TCU also drew 46,138 to Cowboys Stadium for its 2010 opener against Oregon State. For comparison, this week's LSU-Oregon opener at Cowboys Stadiim drew 87,711, and last season's Arkansas-Texas A&M game there drew 65,622.

Also, since the DMN lost the Arlington war 10 or so years ago and consolidated its circulation, Tarrant County has barely registered as part of the DMN's coverage area. At times, it seems anything west of Grand Prairie (with the exception of Cowboys and Rangers games, of course) might as well be in New Mexico. Tarrant homes actually get the early edition of the paper (without the late scores and with all the mistakes that get corrected for the second edition).

 

[Big Circus]

I didn't mean to suggest the college town papers weren't suffering cuts at all, just that they don't seem to be torn to shreds at quite the same level.

In the chain I used to work for there's a paper in a BCS conference town. The staff is quite a bit smaller than it was five years ago, but they still have a sports editor, two beat writers and a columnist with a stable of stringers doing high schools.

A similar sized paper in the same chain and the same state has one guy in sports trying to cover a bunch of high schools, a D-III college, a minor league baseball team and a couple of local race tracks.

That BCS paper LIVES on those stringers. They'd have no prep coverage without them.

 

[slappy4428]

I didn't mean to suggest the college town papers weren't suffering cuts at all, just that they don't seem to be torn to shreds at quite the same level.

Ann Arbor News alumni laugh at this statement.

 

[Jake_Taylor]

I thought about Ann Arbor, but I think it's safe to say Michigan represents the extremes of the bad economy.