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to a one-year deal to back up eli. anyone think carr's salvageable? ??? ??? ???
 
forever_town said:
John said:
Did Lorenzen finally explode?

They're going to move him to the offensive line. He's big enough, after all ...

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shockey said:
to a one-year deal to back up eli. anyone think carr's salvageable? ??? ??? ???

No. The Panthers knew he needed a rejuvenation of some sort. He didn't get it in Charlotte.

If Eli goes down and Carr has happy feet in the pocket with this team, the media will slaughter him.
 
I just don't get that signing. If the Carolina fans (hi Sam!) were too much for him to deal with, how the hell is he going to handle New Jersey?

Still a better investment than Trent Green, if only b/c he's not at risk of knocking himself out when he puts his head on a pillow.
 
BYH said:
I just don't get that signing. If the Carolina fans (hi Sam!) were too much for him to deal with, how the hell is he going to handle New Jersey?

Still a better investment than Trent Green, if only b/c he's not at risk of knocking himself out when he puts his head on a pillow.

If David Carr has a problem with the media, he's not overtly barking about it.

Scott Fowler, a columnist for the Charlotte Observer, has repeatedly printed that he regards Carr as a really nice guy, just not much of a quarterback.
 
This breaks up the all-SEC trio under center for the Giants.
Is it Lorenzen or Wright that's getting cut?
Or will all 4 be in camp and fight it out?
 
Unless you completely abhor Carr - and I don't think most of critics do - it's a good idea.

-It costs the Giants only $1 million, a drop in the modern salary-cap bucket.
-The Giants have Chris Palmer on staff, whom Carr worked with in Houston.
-Carr obviously wants to snap out of it. No one in Charlotte doubts that.

It's worth a shot. It might raise plenty of eyebrows and the columnists will be anxious to sharpen their pencils if he plays, but otherwise it should fly under the radar.
 
I agree it's a minimal investment, but still, the Giants are taking on as a backup someone who couldn't beat out either 98-year-old Vinny Testaverde or undrafted rookie Matt Moore. I know the pickings are slim but I'd rather have tubby or Anthony Wright as Eli's backup if the other choice is Carr.

Plus, if I'm Carr, I go somewhere remote...Green Bay or something. First of all, he's got a much better shot to play there than in NY, where Manning missed no time at all with a shoulder injury that was supposed to wipe him out for two months.

OK maybe not Green Bay. if he has trouble in Carolina, life as the successor to Brett Favre would be even worse. But somewhere he can fly under the radar.
 
one point: what carr may need is some time watching without playing. that's under the radar. since eli seems pretty resistant to injury, perhaps having a year to just watch while being coached up is the right antidote for carr.

possible?
 
shockey said:
one point: what carr may need is some time watching without playing. that's under the radar. since eli seems pretty resistant to injury, perhaps having a year to just watch while being coached up is the right antidote for carr.

possible?

Possible. But who has ever raised his stock by standing on a sideline and sporting a hat? Of course, Carr's stock is so low, he has nothing to lose by going a season without a snap.

And for me, if I'm running a football team, I want a no. 2 QB whom I at least feel can, you know, not totally suck if he has to play. Carr is shot, mentally. I cannot picture him doing well for the Giants if he has to play.
 
BYH said:
shockey said:
one point: what carr may need is some time watching without playing. that's under the radar. since eli seems pretty resistant to injury, perhaps having a year to just watch while being coached up is the right antidote for carr.

possible?

Possible. But who has ever raised his stock by standing on a sideline and sporting a hat? Of course, Carr's stock is so low, he has nothing to lose by going a season without a snap.

And for me, if I'm running a football team, I want a no. 2 QB whom I at least feel can, you know, not totally suck if he has to play. Carr is shot, mentally. I cannot picture him doing well for the Giants if he has to play.

that may well be. my point is that perhaps watching for a year without playing could be what he needs. a little tlc, if you will.

not to "raise his stock." but to give him a chance to get it together mentally. sort of like nursing a battered dog back to being a worthwhile companion.

let him old the clipboard and work on some basics. watch tapes with eli for a season, unscathed. then perhaps in '09 he can be a useful backup.

just wondering aloud. could be a lost cause. for every testaverde or plunkett who revives his career after being a first pick bust there are the tim couches of the world. carr could be that. i dunno.
 
I'm just wondering when David Carr has been surrounded by good talent in the past.

Didn't think so.

Good move.
 
shotglass said:
I'm just wondering when David Carr has been surrounded by good talent in the past.

Didn't think so.

Good move.

Doesn't matter how much talent the guy has around him if the fans of CHARLOTTE turn him into a quivering bowl of jello.
 
BYH said:
shotglass said:
I'm just wondering when David Carr has been surrounded by good talent in the past.

Didn't think so.

Good move.

Doesn't matter how much talent the guy has around him if the fans of CHARLOTTE turn him into a quivering bowl of jello.

And talent doesn't matter if it takes you forever and three days to throw the ball...
 
I will not stand for this egregious affront to the Hefty Lefty. Watching the Giants just wouldn't be the same without knowing that they're a breath away from putting the Throwboy under a center he's undoubtedly bigger than.
 

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