Getting out

[duckncover]

For a few years now I've been coming to the realization that I will not be able to retire in this industry, let alone ever increase my standard of living. With all the wage freezes, layoffs, buyouts, the news is never good. I consider myself pretty successful at what I do (multiple awards, SNDs, blah, blah), but all I've done in my career is work at newspapers. Most of that time as a page designer (with extensive Photoshop illo work, but no graphic design).

I've been busily learning Flash action scripting, HTML and Illustrator, but, at 35+, I worry I've missed my shot at getting out because I have spent my time working mostly with newspaper-specific software. I have a kid and can't really just start over.

My question is this: Have any of you heard of a long-time newspaper designer (14 years and counting) transitioning to a design job in another industry? I just need hope.

 

[Chi City 81]

If you know InDesign, Photoshop, Illustrator and Flash well, you pretty much can get a job with any ad agency. Especially Flash; there's a high demand for that program right now. Good luck.

 

[Lucas Wiseman]

More people may see this on the main journalism board, so I'm moving it there.

 

[wickedwritah]

I know Photoshop, kinda, vaguely.

That's it.

Oh, yeah, Quark, too, but not InDesign.

 

[fishwrapper]

For a few years now I've been coming to the realization that I will not be able to retire in this industry, let alone ever increase my standard of living. With all the wage freezes, layoffs, buyouts, the news is never good. I consider myself pretty successful at what I do (multiple awards, SNDs, blah, blah), but all I've done in my career is work at newspapers. Most of that time as a page designer (with extensive Photoshop illo work, but no graphic design).

I've been busily learning Flash action scripting, HTML and Illustrator, but, at 35+, I worry I've missed my shot at getting out because I have spent my time working mostly with newspaper-specific software. I have a kid and can't really just start over.

My question is this: Have any of you heard of a long-time newspaper designer (14 years and counting) transitioning to a design job in another industry? I just need hope.

You can do it. With design skills, you can work for any ad firm.
In addition, any company with in-house publications. I've seen a designer or two in my time go to work for cruise lines to design brochures and such. They're out there. And, they pay better.

 

[captzulu]

I wasn't in the business as long as you were (about 6 years), but I managed to get out. I know how you feel because I had the same concerns when I was looking to get out of the biz. One suggestion I would give is to look beyond just advertising or design agencies, since they often look for someone with prior agency experience because it does have its own workflow and setting (and having worked at an agency, I can't say it's a workflow I particularly care for). Look at places whose primary focus isn't design-oriented but are looking for a designer, since they are less likely to say "We want someone with prior experience in this or that field." My first job out of newspapers was designing course modules for a nonprofit involved in K-12 science education, and it was a fantastic experience and helped me do some things that I would not have had the chance to do in newspapers, and I feel like that helped me a lot when I looked to get into an ad agency. And definitely become at least proficient in the industry-standard array of software: Photoshop, InDesign, Illustrator (you don't need to be a fantastic artist, but you need to know how to use the software), Quark, and increasingly, Flash and HTML. Also, tailor your resume, portfolio, and application letter to emphasize how the design skills you have can translate over to whatever job you're applying for. Good luck.

 

[HandsomeHarley]

I'm in somewhat of a similar vein, I guess.

I'm being driven out of my current gig for reasons I won't discuss on this board. I'm no longer in position to leave town but there's not another paper in the immediate area.

I have nearly 20 years of experience in the business world, but 10 are in mainframe computers and the rest are in sports writing and page design, of which I've won awards in every possible category (some in news).

The chances of me finding anything other than a $7 an hour job in this town are nil.

 

[boots]

I'm in somewhat of a similar vein, I guess.

I'm being driven out of my current gig for reasons I won't discuss on this board. I'm no longer in position to leave town but there's not another paper in the immediate area.

I have nearly 20 years of experience in the business world, but 10 are in mainframe computers and the rest are in sports writing and page design, of which I've won awards in every possible category (some in news).

The chances of me finding anything other than a $7 an hour job in this town are nil.

Been there partner. Face it, you may have to bite the bullet and move. You might move to a town you don't like but as long as you've got transportation or access to it, you are not trapped.

 

[HandsomeHarley]

Moving is not an option. My wife just landed her first career job out of college.

 

[boots]

Moving is not an option. My wife just landed her first career job out of college.

Then you have pretty much backed yourself in a corner. I've been there. When one door closes, another one opens. It might not open when you want it to, but it will open.

 

[wickedwritah]

Is there anything within an hour drive that's not owned by your chain?

 

[amraeder]

Is there anything within an hour drive that's not owned by your chain?

Along a similar vein, is there somewhere you could move to, that would give you both 30-45 minute commutes in opposite directions?
Maybe hour commutes?

 

[HandsomeHarley]

Closest papers are an hour away and neither is a viable option. We're basically in the middle of nowhere.

I had hoped to find a job near Metropolis before my wife landed a gig, but it didn't happen.

And there is literally nothing between here and my wife new locale. A small (as in one or two blocks wide) township (if you want to call it that) about halfway between, but there probably aren't 10 houses there.

 

[User 1019]

Ride it out for about a year, let her get some expeience, then both of you start looking.

 

[duckncover]

I made it! Sweet corporate gig. Wierd not working in newspapers anymore, but better everything.

 

[HandsomeHarley]

Ride it out for about a year, let her get some expeience, then both of you start looking.

Quite frankly, I'm not sure I can last a year.

Thank God I have two beautiful kids to tuck in at night or I wouldn't even bother finishing this senten

 

[JME]

I got out recently and began focusing on some internet gigs. I miss the writing -- long features and the like -- but am hoping to get my internet and freelancing work going strong enough where I can afford to do some long freelance pieces.

I was a traditional newspaper guy and my mindset was anything else just isn't legit. But with the job market stale and a lot of the hires being politically motivated, i just couldn't take it any more. Anyone who is able to move up in newspapers, at a decent rate, and get to where they feel they deserve to be, gets my utmost respect. It doesn't hurt to be damned good, lucky and connected.

 

[Dan Rydell]

I got out. After so many years.

Life is so much cooler now.

 

[imjustagirl2]

I'm torn between getting out and staying in, even though I'm not sure it's what I want to do.

It's all I know how to do, but I don't enjoy it and I don't have the drive that I believe you have to have to excel. But, if I walk away, it will be the second time I've done so, and the odds of me getting back in after that would be slim to none.

So I debate walking away from something that doesn't make me happy, with no guarantee a different job will change that.

 

[Flying Headbutt]

I've never given it as much serious thought as I have the past few weeks.