Email

[Baron Scicluna]

Let me just say that I'm not as (insert WFB-esque pause) ... trusting as you.

Who said I was trusting?

Like Jay said, if she's lying, or hiding stuff, then dig it up. Do some actual reporting. Not gossip or speculation or "this COULD be ... ".

Real facts.

 

[LongTimeListener]

The facts would be in the emails.

The emails that are not accessible.

 

[Baron Scicluna]

The facts would be in the emails.

The emails that are not accessible.

The investigators have access to the emails. If they think there are missing emails, then they can get access to her server and hard drive.

 

[Baron Scicluna]

Let me just say that I'm not as (insert WFB-esque pause) ... trusting as you.

Wells Fargo Bank-esque?

 

[Riptide]

Hell with the emails. Now we got TRAITORS! GAHHHH!

New York Daily News blasts Cotton, Cruz, McConnell, and Paul over Iran letter: ‘TRAITORS’

 

[MisterCreosote]

Who said I was trusting?

Like Jay said, if she's lying, or hiding stuff, then dig it up. Do some actual reporting. Not gossip or speculation or "this COULD be ... ".

Real facts.

I'm sure Clinton is the first politician in history to hide something, on purpose, for no reason whatsoever.

 

[User 11148]

The Watergate grand jury should have dug up some facts, rather than let the insinuations about the 18.5-minute gap just sit there. They should have dug it up, done some actual investigating.

 

[MisterCreosote]

I'm sure Alberto Gonzales, Karl Rove and others resigned because it really was "just time to go," and not because their "lost" emails contained anything nefarious.

 

[YankeeFan]

Since her "availability" will be at the UN, only reporters who were previously registered to cover the event, will be allowed to attend.

Now, if you're covering the story, you probably should have planned on being there, but it will still limit the number of press in attendance.

Will she actually take questions, or will she just make a statement?

The former secretary of State is expected to hold a media availability with reporters after she speaks at a United Nations event commemorating the 20th anniversary of the Beijing conference on women, the AP and other news organizations reported.

Hillary Clinton to speak about e-mails today

 

[YankeeFan]

BTW, how about these people who don't email?

It was sort of a big deal when it came out in 2008 that McCain didn't use email, but he was old, and couldn't type, so whatever.

But Lindsey Graham said the other day that he's never sent an email. That's nuts.

I think some of these people don't use it specifically because they don't want it subpenaed, or to come out in FOIA requests, but it's still insane. Imagine doing your job without email. Imagine trying to explain to someone -- like your boss or clients -- that you don't use email.

And, I think reporters need to be asking politicians and agency heads at all levels of government if they use email, and if they use a non-governmental account to conduct government business.

 

[MisterCreosote]

A really good timeline and fact check of what Clinton did in relation to what was legal during her time as secretary:

Hillary Clinton’s e-mails: a timeline of actions and regulations - The Washington Post

That should debunk the idea that what she did was legal at the time. Yes, the use of personal email was allowed, but record-keeping requirements were always in place, and with which she did not comply, deliberately.

Also, this (which I didn't know about before):

March 15, 2013: Clinton’s private e-mail account is first exposed after a hacker named “Guccifer” accessed the account of former Bill Clinton aide Sidney Blumenthal. The hack shows that Clinton communicated with Blumenthal using the private e-mail account of [email protected], and Guccifer published a screen grab of their exchanges showing that the two discussed a number of sensitive foreign policy issues.


The leak attracted little attention at the time, though an article in Gawker asked, “Why was Clinton apparently receiving emails at a non-governmental email account?” John Cook, the author, added: “Neither the State Department nor the White House would immediately comment on whether the White House knew that Blumenthal was digitally whispering in Clinton’s ear, or if the emails were preserved as the law requires.”

 

[YankeeFan]

"Appearing at the UN, which has a notoriously difficult credentialing process. So there's going to be a restriction on the number of reporters who can come in. You had to apply 24 hours in advance for press passes. So I don't know if it is intentional or not, but there will definitely be a limited number than if they held it at, say, a hotel or somewhere else in New York where they could be expected to be mobbed by every reporter and their mother in the city."

 

[JayFarrar]

I can't imagine a world without e-mail.

It is my primary communication tool.

I wonder if the people who claim not to e-mail, do any kind of text messaging? I guess, technically, a Blackberry to Blackberry isn't an e-mail, right? And once you get to a certain point, you have people who do things like e-mail for you because I can't imagine any senator who doesn't do e-mail blasts, and that wouldn't count since the senator or whomever wasn't the one who hit send.

 

[MisterCreosote]

The day can't come quickly enough when I never have to send another email.

I only check my personal email once a week, if that. It's all spam, and "promotions," and "deals." Maybe if every ****ing business on Earth didn't send unsolicited spam when you visit their store/website once, things would be different.

Texting is much, much better.

 

[HejiraHenry]

Back to the Q at hand, we have created email accounts outside our work server to deal with the glut of stuff that comes from SID offices and such. One, a Yahoo address, is the one we give out to the public. As such, it's accessible to everyone on staff who might need to find something or who might be on the desk at night. The other, a Gmail account, is for stringers and a few select high-value targets.

I think I first created the Yahoo account at some point when were were having trouble with our office server, which happens from time to time. We get duplicated emails to the office and Yahoo accounts, but I always say I'd rather get something twice as opposed to not at all.

 

[YankeeFan]

If Hillary Clinton were to lose a bet, I would expect her to have a truckload of pennies delivered to the winner to settle the debt:

If you were following the revelations about Hillary Clinton’s private State Department IT operation last week, you probably heard that, as the initialNew York Timesstory put it, “55,000 pages of emails were given to the department” in December after being selected by a private aide to the former secretary. You might have wondered: What does that mean, 55,000 “pages”? Or maybe you just read it, as the crack fact-check team over atPolitiFactdid just last night, as 55,000emails.

It turns out the reference is to literal physical pages. FromFriday’s Times: “Finally, in December, dozens of boxes filled with 50,000 pages of printed emails from Mrs. Clinton’s personal account were delivered to the State Department.”

Why did Mrs. Clinton have her staff go through the trouble of printing out, boxing and shipping 50,000 or 55,000 pages instead of just sending a copy of the electronic record? One can only speculate, but there is an obvious advantage: Printed files are less informative and far harder to search than the electronic originals.

Because State has only printouts of emails, department personnel responding to a Freedom of Information Act request have to go through the whole haystack rather than type “needle” into a search engine. At best, that would mean long delays in FOIA compliance.

Likewise, printouts are not subject to electronic discovery in the event of investigation or lawsuit. The Times reports that department lawyers responding to a request from the House Select Committee on Benghazi took two months to find “roughly 900 pages pertaining to the Benghazi attacks.” And printouts do not include electronic “metadata,” which can provide crucial forensic evidence.

Paper Tigress - WSJ

Environmentalists must be furious over the dead trees required to print out 55,000 pages of emails.

 

[Baron Scicluna]

The Watergate grand jury should have dug up some facts, rather than let the insinuations about the 18.5-minute gap just sit there. They should have dug it up, done some actual investigating.

Actually, the Washington Post did do a whole bunch of digging for their stories.

As far as the tapes go, Alexander Butterfield testified before the committee that the tapes existed. The Post, and other papers, reported that testimony. The Post did more digging and found out that the tapes contained erasures. Nixon's lawyers then admitted in court that one of the tapes had the 18.5 minute gap.

You, on the other hand, are already assuming that there is a gap when there may not even be a tape, or in this case, a email, that exists.

Which leads back to the other point. What alleged crime is Hillary covering up?

 

[User 11148]

I'm going to go get one of those $20 "burner" phones at my local grocery store. I'll pay cash for it and for the minutes card I buy along with it. For whatever registration is required, I'll use a special gmail account I've just created. Finally, I'll make sure I delete my call/message history frequently.

If my wife finds out about it, I'm going to be indignant that she doesn't trust me when I say I had absolutely no untoward intentions: "Why are you assuming I've got something to hide?"

 

[Baron Scicluna]

Except in the current case, it is only assumed that you are deleting your call/message history.

 

[User 11148]

Go buy yourself a burner phone, activate it just as I've described, but don't tell anyone about it. For the next three months, do nothing with it other than keep it active. Then let your wife stumble onto it. I bet she'll love your "You're assuming I've done something!" schtick.