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[User 11148]

- In late 2014, Clinton turned over 55,000 emails sent via her personal email address to conduct state business.
- Said emails are now preserved by an appropriate government agency.

I'm not sure it's such a good idea to assume that these 55,000 emails are the entirety of her electronic correspondence.

 

[bigpern23]

I haven't assumed that.

 

[MisterCreosote]

I'm not sure it's such a good idea to assume that these 55,000 emails are the entirety of her electronic correspondence.

Yes. This is what I mean. I don't trust her, or any politician, to self-report everything. Why should I?

I'm also not saying she IS hiding something. I'm saying there's every reason in the world, judging by her own actions, to suspect that she is.

People with nothing to hide don't purposely circumvent record-keeping laws for the entirety of their term.

But, by all means, cull what you have for anything nefarious. Find some kind of assurance that you've documented everything. Once those two things happen, I'm good to go. But it still is what it is - an arrogant flaunting of transparency laws.

 

[LongTimeListener]

Wasn't there a big flap that Rove and (I think) Cheney were using private emails stored on private servers and thus didn't have to turn them over?

 

[Dick Whitman]

I'm not convinced she's hiding anything in particular.

I think that she thinks everything she does is worth hiding, particularly since she had one goal as Secretary of State, and that was to emerge unscathed with the line on her resume.

 

[Boom_70]

I'm not sure it's such a good idea to assume that these 55,000 emails are the entirety of her electronic correspondence.

I doubt that she would hide anything except her personal stuff. I believe that I read that Sandy Berger was the adviser who reviewed all the
e -mails and decided which ones should be sent to The State Dept. He has always been known as a man of integrity.

 

[MisterCreosote]

Wasn't there a big flap that Rove and (I think) Cheney were using private emails stored on private servers and thus didn't have to turn them over?

Are you referring to the kerfuffle where the emails were "lost" after a server "crash" that resulted in Rove, Alberto Gonzales and several other high-ranking DOJ officials resigning?

I'm sure that was just a huge overreaction, too.

 

[Boom_70]

It was not a big deal either that The IRS lost a bunch of e-mails from a server being changed.

 

[LongTimeListener]

Are you referring to the kerfuffle where the emails were "lost" after a server "crash" that resulted in Rove, Alberto Gonzales and several other high-ranking DOJ officials resigning?

I'm sure that was just a huge overreaction, too.

There you go. That's the one.

It does seem like we went over the whole deal about public vs. private back then, and that Hillary's explanation doesn't hold up if that is accepted as precedent.

Maybe there's a chance for super sexy Elizabeth Warren after all!

 

[JayFarrar]

Our old work e-mail, lotus notes, was so awful and didn't allow for remote access without some complicated steps, made me use a personal e-mail address for work related things.

Then we switched to corporate gmail and I don't use my personal e-mail as much.

 

[PCLoadLetter]

It's mind-boggling to me that anyone thinks this will be a significant campaign issue. It won't, and only partly because voters don't really give a ****.

Chiefly, it won't be an issue because virtually every government official does this. The local paper did a piece last year on which state officials use personal email instead of their official work email. The answer: all of them, including the governor, state treasurer, attorney general and superintendent of schools.

So, who's going to make it an issue in the campaign? You think Chris Christie wants to make an issue of private email, when the whole bridge thing was set up over private email accounts?

This is not a defense of Hillary, but if she's going to be attacked by another candidate, that candidate better have a sterling record on public email use. Good luck finding that candidate.

 

[User 11148]

I'm not convinced she's hiding anything in particular.

I think that she thinks everything she does is worth hiding, particularly since she had one goal as Secretary of State, and that was to emerge unscathed with the line on her resume.

This is pretty close to where I am as regards the likely heart of the matter. It's sort of like the old bromide about some baseball player of little defensive ability who ran with the idea that you can't be charged with an error if you don't touch the ball.

 

[KJIM]

Chiefly, it won't be an issue because virtually every government official does this. The local paper did a piece last year on which state officials use personal email instead of their official work email. The answer: all of them, including the governor, state treasurer, attorney general and superintendent of schools.

This federal litigator disagrees:
Hillary Clinton's emails: What you need to know - CNN.com

"Jason R. Baron, a lawyer at Drinker Biddle & Reath and the former director of litigation at the National Archives and Records Administration, said in an interview on Tuesday that is doesn't appear Clinton `violated' the law because `the Federal Records Act is amorphous enough.'

"But Baron also said the sole use of private emails was extraordinary.

"`I was in the government for 34 years and, in my experience as director of litigation, I cannot recall an instance where a high level official -- or anyone -- solely used a private email account for the transaction of government business,' said Baron said."

 

[Baron Scicluna]

It won't be a full blown Clinton scandal until Lanny Davis starts making the rounds on the cables.

It won't be a full-blown scandal until someone starts calling it Emailgate.

 

[PCLoadLetter]

This federal litigator disagrees:
Hillary Clinton's emails: What you need to know - CNN.com

"Jason R. Baron, a lawyer at Drinker Biddle & Reath and the former director of litigation at the National Archives and Records Administration, said in an interview on Tuesday that is doesn't appear Clinton `violated' the law because `the Federal Records Act is amorphous enough.'

"But Baron also said the sole use of private emails was extraordinary.

"`I was in the government for 34 years and, in my experience as director of litigation, I cannot recall an instance where a high level official -- or anyone -- solely used a private email account for the transaction of government business,' said Baron said."

It's highly unusual that she didn't have a work email address. It's not highly unusual that she conducted her business on a personal email account.

 

[LongTimeListener]

If Tea Leoni's character has a government email address, I hope she used it to send naked pictures of herself.

 

[User 11148]

It's highly unusual that she didn't have a work email address. It's not highly unusual that she conducted her business on a personal email account.

I'm sorry, that's a crock. You're right that it's not unusual to conduct business on a personal email account. It is highly unusual, however, to: 1) create a personal email account; 2) mere days before assuming a new position, at which; 3) you choose NOT to initiate a work account, so that: 4) ALL of your subsequent work correspondence is routed through that personal email account.

This wasn't accidental. This wasn't an oversight. She and her underlings meant to do this. Why they did so we can only speculate (for now). But let's not pretend the facts (re: the existence/use of the personal email account) have an innocent explanation.

 

[Amy]

Her email address, which she apparently used for all her email, was @clintonemail.com. This clearly is not a government email address. Somebody (or bodies) must have noticed her use of a private email address for government business long before now.

 

[JayFarrar]

USA Today story notes that she used a private e-mail server installed in her home and had her own private internet domain.

Really?

I'm not bothered by all of this, but I've never heard of anyone with a private e-mail server. That seems crazy to me but maybe I don't understand the technical aspects of it.

Also IT related, wouldn't a private e-mail server be insanely secure?

 

[Vombatus]

Insanely INSECURE.