Delta plane upside down in Toronto

[dixiehack]

What in God’s name is going on in the aviation world?

Delta flight crashes at Toronto airport, several injured

Eight injured, one with "critical with non-life-threatening injuries.”

 

[Della9250]

We may need a running plane crash thread at this rate

 

[Starman]

I thought by definition critical injuries were life-threatening.

 

[HanSenSE]

Just for the TTIUWOP crowd:

 

[Songbird]

I flew American nonstop from LA to JFK last week and it was a great flight.

I did pucker up for those few seconds right before we landed and while the brakes kicked in but relaxed soon as we slowed down to a crawl.

They have a really good cheese and grapes platter. And carry Apple TV and 3 episodes of Severance.

 

[playthrough]

What in the Talladega is that? Sure feels like we're getting paid back for years of safe air travel in North America.

 

[dixiehack]

We may need a running plane crash thread at this rate

I thought about that but felt it might be insensitive to one of our members.

 

[Slacker]

Easy to see how everyone could survive Sully's water landing in the Hudson.
But how does everyone survive a jet flipping over on a concrete runway?
And how did it flip without breaking apart and bursting into flames?

Thank God everyone must have been strapped down with a seatbelt. But, even still ...

 

[BTExpress]

I thought by definition critical injuries were life-threatening.

The story cited two sources. One said 15 injured, none with life-threatening injuries. The other said 3 had life-threatening injuries, 12 had mild injuries.

 

[Starman]

The story cited two sources. One said 15 injured, none with life-threatening injuries. The other said 3 had life-threatening injuries, 12 had mild injuries.

That sounds more likely. Also, is the terminology for reporting injuries different in Canada than the U.S.?

 

[Shropshire Slasher]

That sounds more likely. Also, is the terminology for reporting injuries different in Canada than the U.S.?

Upper body and lower body

 

[Typist Clerk]

What kind of surprise sidewind can flip a jet upon landing? 50 mph? More? Or did an icy runway or taxiway (especially while turning) cause this.

The wings appear to have sheared off. That accounted for most of the fire, and away from the body of the plane. The tail is gone too. The video and black boxes will tell plenty.

 

[maumann]

Pure conjecture, but that looks like a CRJ (that's Delta's typical Canadian equipment). Perhaps the landing was just off the centerline enough -- and if there was a cross wind -- to where one of the landing gear or a wing strut caught the edge of the runway and started a slow barrel roll? That might account for the loss of wings and tail. The fuselage would be just one aluminum cigar at that point, with the nosegear still attached.

(EDIT: "Reports indicate the aircraft experienced a flap actuator failure, causing a hard landing that led to the plane overturning near the runway. The aircraft involved in the crash is Mitsubishi CRJ900, registered as N932XJ. Further, it is a 15.6-year-old aircraft and has been with Delta Connection since 2013. The aircraft is powered by Two GE CF34-8C5 engines.")

Airplane seatbelts aren't really designed to keep you in your seat when you're upside down, and I can only imagine the stuff inside the cabin acting as projectiles at that point. Sending prayers to those injured. And I have no idea if the flight crew ever practices an emergency exit with the plane upside down, but they obviously did a tremendous job under difficult circumstances.

 

[Batman]

The pilot?

 

[Shropshire Slasher]

I would've guessed Rollin' Ryan Preece.

 

[Typist Clerk]

Maumann does it again. A couple of experts on NBC speculated tonight the right wing hit the runway because of the crosswinds and that set the plane rotating. A computer simulation was shown.

 

[maumann]

Maumann does it again. A couple of experts on NBC speculated tonight the right wing hit the runway because of the crosswinds and that set the plane rotating. A computer simulation was shown.

I have enough experience over the course of my career in things that go boom to have a puncher's chance at being somewhere in the ballpark. Curiosity is never a bad thing.

That, and a veteran reporter's knowledge that goes a mile wide and an inch deep, with the exception of race car history and safety, which I'm afraid I know quite too much about. And an unhealthy love for the Detroit Tigers.

 

[MileHigh]

We may need a running plane crash thread at this rate

Please, no. Still lots of PTSD and scar tissue here. I can barely read these things.

Carry on.

 

[maumann]

Please, no. Still lots of PTSD and scar tissue here. I can barely read these things.

Carry on.

You're the first person in my thoughts every time something pops up like this.

 

[MileHigh]

You're the first person in my thoughts every time something pops up like this.

Appreciate you and that sentiment. Not trying to be a Debbie Downer, but, yeah, 7.5 years later, this **** is still real to me. D.C. Toronto. Some obscure place no one talks about. Still jarring. Sounds like no deaths, thank goodness.