Ciao, John Bolton ....

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He was the quintessential Bush appointee and a symbol of how we now are viewed by the rest of the world:

UN members never respected Bolton. "He lives in another world, with this belief that he is morally superior and the U.S. is more moral than all the countries around the world," Oswaldo de Rivero, then the ambassador from Peru, a Security Council member, said.
 
Christ, the guy was a bull in a china shop. Always a good idea to name someone that wants to destroy the UN to be your country's ambassador there. But that's typical of Fredo's regime.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/04/world/05nationscnd.html?hp&ex=1165294800&en=085c276f00daf688&ei=5094&partner=homepage

Of course, even Mr. Bolton’s success in championing the Bush administration represented a problem for him at the world organization, where that policy is perceived as disdainful of diplomacy itself, heedless in its effects on others and single-minded in its assertion of American interests.
 
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Lyman_Bostock said:
Guy_Incognito said:
A sad, sad day. I hope his replacement does half the job he did.

Agreed.

Yes, because being a bully is such a positive way to represent this country.

Bolton is an example of what's been wrong with our foreign policy for most of Bush's term.
 
sportschick said:
Lyman_Bostock said:
Guy_Incognito said:
A sad, sad day. I hope his replacement does half the job he did.

Agreed.

Yes, because being a bully is such a positive way to represent this country.

Bolton is an example of what's been wrong with our foreign policy for most of Bush's term.
Jesus, sc, I thought those two morons were joking.

Apparently not.
 
You haven't been paying attenton, detective.
Lyman and Guy think Bush is the greatest president in American history.
 
JR said:
Christ, the guy was a bull in a china shop. Always a good idea to name someone that wants to destroy the UN to be your country's ambassador there. But that's typical of Fredo's regime.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/04/world/05nationscnd.html?hp&ex=1165294800&en=085c276f00daf688&ei=5094&partner=homepage

Of course, even Mr. Bolton’s success in championing the Bush administration represented a problem for him at the world organization, where that policy is perceived as disdainful of diplomacy itself, heedless in its effects on others and single-minded in its assertion of American interests.

I give you the words of the noted firebrand conservative Alan Dershowitz

What remains of last year's nomination battle, though, is what I suspect to be the real reason that some Democrats oppose the Bolton nomination. That is, they felt uncomfortable with Mr. Bolton's oft-expressed and blunt skepticism over the United Nations' legal and moral authority. Mr. Bolton can even, at times, come off as "contemptuous of the U.N.," in Sen. Barbara Boxer's words.
But Mr. Bolton is right to be skeptical, and all the great U.S. ambassadors to the United Nations — from Adlai Stevenson to Arthur Goldberg to Pat Moynihan to Jeane Kirkpatrick — have shared that skepticism. Mr. Bolton is absolutely justified in pushing for reform of the notoriously corrupt and inefficient bureaucratic structure in Turtle Bay. As he once said, "If member countries want the United Nations to be respected ... they should begin by making sure it is worthy of respect."
Most importantly, Mr. Bolton understands that his job is to represent the United States and our interests to the world, and not the other way around. When The Washington Post's Dana Milbank chided Mr. Bolton for "disparaging the very organization he would serve," the Wall Street Journal's James Taranto promptly corrected him by saying, "the American ambassador to the U.N. is supposed to serve America, not the U.N."
 
I agree with Dershowitz (and ostensibly you), PDB, but doesn't it become awful difficult to serve America within the auspices of the UN if one hasn't the respect and consideration of other delegates?
 
MertWindu said:
I agree with Dershowitz (and ostensibly you), PDB, but doesn't it become awful difficult to serve America within the auspices of the UN if one hasn't the respect and consideration of other delegates?

The US Ambassador to the UN isn't going to win many popularity contests.
 
He doesn't have to win popularity contest, Pope, but to affect things in a way that is beneficial to the US (i.e, represent our intyerestes) he has to be able to positively influence people to see things our way. That is what diplomacy is.
The Bush method of diplomacy is we're the U S of ****ing A, we're doing it our way and the rest of you can go **** yourselves. That's gotten us real far.
 
Yeah, people really want to work with you when you antagonize and bully them.
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/04/world/05nationscnd.html?hp&ex=1165294800&en=085c276f00daf688&ei=5094&partner=homepage

Mr. Bolton’s relationship with Mr. Annan was also marked by testiness. He repeatedly ducked opportunities offered by reporters to praise or commend Mr. Annan, usually by changing the subject or by saying, as he did on one such occasion last month, “I’ll pass.”

A year ago, Mr. Annan startled Security Council ambassadors at one of their monthly luncheons by chastising Mr. Bolton for trying to “intimidate” him.


Bolton has a history of bullying people. That's a recorded fact. Why should he be any different at the UN.

So nice to see Chris back. He always has so much to offer. You been on a fellate-Rumsfeld sabbatical?
 
JR said:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/04/world/05nationscnd.html?hp&ex=1165294800&en=085c276f00daf688&ei=5094&partner=homepage

Mr. Bolton’s relationship with Mr. Annan was also marked by testiness. He repeatedly ducked opportunities offered by reporters to praise or commend Mr. Annan, usually by changing the subject or by saying, as he did on one such occasion last month, “I’ll pass.”

A year ago, Mr. Annan startled Security Council ambassadors at one of their monthly luncheons by chastising Mr. Bolton for trying to “intimidate” him.


Bolton has a history of bullying people. That's a recorded fact. Why should he be any different at the UN.

So nice to see Chris back. He always has so much to offer. You been on a fellate-Rumsfeld sabbatical?

Now that is a weakass argument: He's done it before, so I'm sure he's done it since. He doesn't publicly fellate Kofi Annan, so he's a bully?
 
Isn't publicly fellating just about all world leaders part of the job description for any diplomat, let alone the top diplomat in the country?

You know, like Rumsfeld did for Saddam back in the day...
 
Zeke12 said:
Isn't publicly fellating just about all world leaders part of the job description for any diplomat, let alone the top diplomat in the country?

You know, like Rumsfeld did for Saddam back in the day...

No, the job description for a diplomat is to represent his country's best interests. Period.
 

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