Bundy Trial Ends In A Mistrial For A Very Expected Reason

[Rainman]

Bundy Trial Ends in a Mistrial for a Very Expected Reason

Didn't someone on here argue about the lack of due process and the grazing permits were cancelled because of fraud?

Thankfully that whistleblower came forward. If he did not, four men would have gone to prison based on fraud.

They were just a bunch of dumb hillbillies and the government was in the right, am I right?

 

[Inky_Wretch]

Welfare kings and thugs. Lock ‘em up.

 

[Stoney]

Bundy Trial Ends in a Mistrial for a Very Expected Reason

Didn't someone on here argue about the lack of due process and the grazing permits were cancelled because of fraud?

Thankfully that whistleblower came forward. If he did not, four men would have gone to prison based on fraud.

They were just a bunch of dumb hillbillies and the government was in the right, am I right?

Do you know what the word "mistrial" means?

Hint: it doesn't mean acquittal. You might wanna hold off on the victory dance. You're acting like this is over, when it ain't. Your boys can still be tried, and still may be found guilty, as they should, because they are guilty.

However, the prosecutors did inexcusably **** up here. For that reason, the Judge determined that this trial can't go forward. That doesn't bar the scheduling of another.

 

[User 4332]

If anyone is interested in an objective, thorough account of what went wrong in the trial, I found this account from the Oregonian useful:

Rebuke of U.S. attorneys in Cliven Bundy case: 'Every prosecutor's nightmare'

Brady violations often mean the end of a case, although sometimes the problem can be cured for retrial.

Brady can be incredibly frustrating for the prosecution, even though I agree with the principle behind it 100 percent. It's frustrating because in practice prosecutors are assigned the entire knowledge of the government. So even after a diligent search you might find put mid-trial that an agent or agency intentionally withheld something you couldn't have otherwise known about and it's your ethical violation.

That said, it sounds like issues were raised here that should've been investigated more thoroughly by the federal prosecutors and weren't.

 

[LongTimeListener]

The good thing is that people like Rainman can make one sign saying DESTROY BLM and it works for every occasion.

 

[Rainman]

Do you know what the word "mistrial" means?

Hint: it doesn't mean acquittal. You might wanna hold off on the victory dance. You're acting like this is over, when it ain't. Your boys can still be tried, and still may be found guilty, as they should, because they are guilty.

However, the prosecutors did inexcusably **** up here. For that reason, the Judge determined that this trial can't go forward. That doesn't bar the scheduling of another.

Did you read the article? Did you miss the part about the BLM engaged in fraud?

How do you know they are guilty? How do you know they will be found guilty?

 

[Jake_Taylor]

Probably antidepressants made 'em do it.

 

[DanOregon]

Stunning victory for Bundy family as all charges dismissed in 2014 standoff case

White people justice.
I'll leave the legal arguments to the pros and respect the decision - it was an Obama appointed judge. But I imagine there are more than a few people wondering why white people can point guns at cops and live and avoid a conviction while unarmed black people get an automatic death sentence.

 

[Rainman]

Do you know what the word "mistrial" means?

Hint: it doesn't mean acquittal. You might wanna hold off on the victory dance. You're acting like this is over, when it ain't. Your boys can still be tried, and still may be found guilty, as they should, because they are guilty.

However, the prosecutors did inexcusably **** up here. For that reason, the Judge determined that this trial can't go forward. That doesn't bar the scheduling of another.

It's over. They are all free and the judge barred a retrial. None of what BLM said was true.

"A reckless disregard for constitutional obligations."

 

[Inky_Wretch]

It's over. They are all free and the judge barred a retrial. None of what BLM said was true.

"A reckless disregard for constitutional obligations."

Not turning over evidence =/= none of what the BLM said was true.

The Bundys are welfare kings and tax dodgers. They represent the worst of the West. And they will wind up in prison one day. I just hope it’s not after they murder a BLM official.

 

[tapintoamerica]

Not turning over evidence =/= none of what the BLM said was true.

The Bundys are welfare kings and tax dodgers. They represent the worst of the West. And they will wind up in prison one day. I just hope it’s not after they murder a BLM official.

They'll beat that rap, too. Nothing would make them more beloved by their apologists.

 

[Rainman]

Not turning over evidence =/= none of what the BLM said was true.

The Bundys are welfare kings and tax dodgers. They represent the worst of the West. And they will wind up in prison one day. I just hope it’s not after they murder a BLM official.

Like the way Finicum was murdered by the FBI? And what does “worst of the west” mean?

https://redoubtnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Larry-Wooten-Communication_77PI.pdf

I''m honestly dumbfounded everybody that reads this would side against the Bundys. You or I could end up in jail like Bundy because federal agencies decide they are above the law and nobody is going to stop them from dealing with dumb simple hicks like me and you.

The Obama appointed Federal Judge said:

"Gloria Navarro, dismissed the federal government’s criminal case against Bundy and two of his sons on the basis that the government was guilty of “flagrant misconduct” in the trial. Its conduct was so “outrageous” that “no lesser remedy” than dismissal with prejudice “is sufficient.”

 

[Slacker]

Like the way Finicum was murdered by the FBI?

Finicum made a move toward the gun in his pocket. The correct move is to put your hands in the air.

 

[MisterCreosote]

People who don't recognize the federal government as even existing are putting an awful lot of stock into a federal judge's decision.

 

[Inky_Wretch]

Like the way Finicum was murdered by the FBI? And what does “worst of the west” mean?

https://redoubtnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Larry-Wooten-Communication_77PI.pdf

I''m honestly dumbfounded everybody that reads this would side against the Bundys. You or I could end up in jail like Bundy because federal agencies decide they are above the law and nobody is going to stop them from dealing with dumb simple hicks like me and you.

The Obama appointed Federal Judge said:

Don't reach for a pistol when LEOs have their sidearms pointed at you and you'll be fine.

You're dumbfounded that people who'd read a pro-Bundy, pro-sovereign citizen, pro-militia whackadoo site would oppose Bundy? Shocking! As for the "me and you" angle, if I wasn't paying $1 million in owed grazing fees, disobeying court orders and led an armed takeover of Federal property you're damned right I'd be in jail. Hell, I hope I'd be in jail for committing those crimes.

 

[Rainman]

People who don't recognize the federal government as even existing are putting an awful lot of stock into a federal judge's decision.

Who said anything about the government not existing? Who has called for total anarchy?

Let me take a wild guess here, you haven't read the indictment of the FBI agent?

 

[heyabbott]

Finicum made a move toward the gun in his pocket. The correct move is to put your hands in the air.

Only if you’re black

 

[Big Circus]

Only if you’re black

I was going to say. We certainly don't hold local cops to these standards!

 

[YankeeFan]

I was going to say. We certainly don't hold local cops to these standards!

Would you like to tell me how long it’s been since the FBI determined that a shooting by an agent was not justified?

 

[MisterCreosote]

Who said anything about the government not existing?

“I don’t recognize the United States government as even existing.” — Cliven Bundy, April 10, 2014