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I’m old enough to remember the days of Arnie and Jack. Back then golf coverage was 16, 17, 18 and the 15th green. I am always fascinated by majors where you can see how much things can change during a round
 
Rory was caught saying "**** off" when the horn blew this morning, he'd have much rather played this morning to try to shoot a low one in calmer conditions. Plus a guy of his ilk wouldn't be very fond of going off the 10th tee about the same time the leaders are going off 1.
 
The weather has made this major less than ideal, for sure. I respect the "**** off" from Rory, even if a delay was the right call.

Shane Lowry was none too happy with an embeded lie yesterday and had simliar sentiments.
 
The course they played last week was better suited for a PGA Championship than this week.
 
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Seems like overall low marks for the venue. But the leaderboard definitley looks major-worth right now with Scheffler, Rahm and DeChambeau. Finau lurking too.
 
The weather has made this major less than ideal, for sure. I respect the "**** off" from Rory, even if a delay was the right call.

Shane Lowry was none too happy with an embeded lie yesterday and had simliar sentiments.

Lowry's case was an interesting one, he said that when he got to his ball and was talking to the rules official, an ESPN on-course reporter came over and said that Lowry's shot didn't make the pitch mark and instead a previous player's shot did--which would mean no relief, and that was the ruling. That's why Lowry lost his **** and I can kinda sympathize. Makes for a good ethical debate about whether a reporter should be playing referee.
 
Lowry's case was an interesting one, he said that when he got to his ball and was talking to the rules official, an ESPN on-course reporter came over and said that Lowry's shot didn't make the pitch mark and instead a previous player's shot did--which would mean no relief, and that was the ruling. That's why Lowry lost his **** and I can kinda sympathize. Makes for a good ethical debate about whether a reporter should be playing referee.
Definitely falls in the "calling in a rules violations because you saw it on TV" category.

I've gone back and forth on it. Sure, a violation is a violation. But not all players get the same scrutiny. I still don't know what the right call is.

I'm definitely think amateurs should be able to move balls out of divots in the fairway with no penalty. Pros, I'm not so sure, but I can see a case for it.
 
Definitely falls in the "calling in a rules violations because you saw it on TV" category.

I've gone back and forth on it. Sure, a violation is a violation. But not all players get the same scrutiny. I still don't know what the right call is.

I'm definitely think amateurs should be able to move balls out of divots in the fairway with no penalty. Pros, I'm not so sure, but I can see a case for it.

Yeah, if Lowry wasn't on an ESPN featured group, there wouldn't have been a guy there to butt in.

The divot argument always starts with "what's a divot?" There's the crater that the guy one group ahead left, and the week-old scar that has almost healed. You'd have fistfights in the member-guest. Play it as it lies unless it's a put your hands on your balls day (HEYO).
 
Scottie Scheffler, one helluva finish to take a three-shot lead. He appears to have figured it all out again.

I'm also sick of "Green Mile" the way I'm sick of "Bear Trap."
 
The weather has made this major less than ideal, for sure. I respect the "**** off" from Rory, even if a delay was the right call.

Shane Lowry was none too happy with an embeded lie yesterday and had simliar sentiments.
Was waiting for this to come up. As others have noted, the rule says it has to have been embedded in its OWN pitch mark. Otherwise, we'd give relief for every fairway divot. As for the reporter's involvement, it's on any good rules official to get the most information possible when they don't witness it first-hand. The reporter reported facts, not opinion. So I'm good with it.
 
Was waiting for this to come up. As others have noted, the rule says it has to have been embedded in its OWN pitch mark. Otherwise, we'd give relief for every fairway divot. As for the reporter's involvement, it's on any good rules official to get the most information possible when they don't witness it first-hand. The reporter reported facts, not opinion. So I'm good with it.
The divot thing is definitey a can of worms best not opened at the professional level. Pace of play would be even worse.
 
Scottie Scheffler, one helluva finish to take a three-shot lead. He appears to have figured it all out again.

I'm also sick of "Green Mile" the way I'm sick of "Bear Trap."

If there was a drinking game involved we'd all be dead, but it was nice of Nantz on the broadcast to give a shout-out to scribe Ron Green Jr. for coming up with the term.
 
If there was a drinking game involved we'd all be dead, but it was nice of Nantz on the broadcast to give a shout-out to scribe Ron Green Jr. for coming up with the term.

Not unusual for Nantz. For all the bullets he takes on this board, he does his homework. Kudos for his shoutout to Ron Green Jr., one of the decent guys and another Observer product.

I understand some of you might be sick of terms like "The Green Mile," and I know a network can beat something like that into the ground. But it's not a joke, as Bam Bam discovered Saturday.
 

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