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Kiper expects the Chiefs will select LSU DE Tyson Jackson at No. 3. Seems kinda high for him.
 
bostonbred said:
Kiper expects the Chiefs will select LSU DE Tyson Jackson at No. 3. Seems kinda high for him.

Unless they're able to trade down and then take him, which they would probably love to do.
 
Oz said:
bostonbred said:
Kiper expects the Chiefs will select LSU DE Tyson Jackson at No. 3. Seems kinda high for him.

Unless they're able to trade down and then take him, which they would probably love to do.

If somebody behind Seattle wants Sanchez bad enough, then the Chiefs could have a very interesting Saturday, indeed.
 
GB-Hack said:
Foxsports.com reporting that Florida's Percy Harvin and North Carolina's Brandon Tate both tested positive for marijuana at the combine in February.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9483382/Sources:-WRs-Harvin,-Tate-tested-positive-for-pot

I am utterly shocked that 20-something football players would toke up. What's next, they don't eat milk and cookies and go to bed right at 10 PM?
 
JackReacher said:
Pancamo said:
Percy Harvin has had trouble following rules since he was suspended from sports during HS.

True, he was involved in a lot of "situations" in HS, but I thought he cleaned up his image pretty well in Gainesville (until this test, of course). I could be wrong, though. Someone please correct me if I am.

This week, the Ravens' director of player personnel (who seems to be Ozzie's heir apparent, and might well have been Phil Savage's brain) said that he doesn't worry if guys smoke a little weed. But that he has a major problem if they test positive, for anything, at the combine. When players know for a fact the date that they are going to be tested, and still can't stay clean for a month in advance, it indicates either a drug problem, an attitude problem, or both.

The Ravens automatically drop those guys from their board -- he callled it "Like showing up for a job interview wearing a clown suit."
 
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The recent love affair with Sanchez is pretty interesting. There's more attention being paid to him than on the No. 1 pick. A month ago, it seemed like there was no way he would get picked before the Niners at No. 10 and now they're saying he could go anywhere from No. 2 to No. 8. I think he goes at No. 3, but obviously he's not going to be playing in KC.
 
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mustangj17 said:
Lions are taking Curry, not Stafford, according to an unreliable source I know.

I don't believe that for a second, but I said the same thing a few years ago when someone posted that the Texans were taking Mario Williams over Reggie Bush. :)
 
mustangj17 said:
Lions are taking Curry, not Stafford, according to an unreliable source I know.

That says it all for me. At this point, I think the Lions would be stupid not to take Stafford. The guy is a stud.
 
If that's the case with Curry, the Chiefs are sitting pretty. Of course, I heard John Clayton talking about how they really want LSU's Tyson Jackson and could take him at 3. Considering I haven't seen him projected any higher than the middle of the first, that seems like it would be a terrible "value pick." Odds are Pioli is gonna go over his minutes for the month this afternoon. This has rip Dan Snyder off written all over it.
 
I would love to see Stafford somehow fall to the Chiefs just to see them question the Cassel deal for 15 minutes.
 
Well, I hope the Lions do take Curry; it would make the early part of the draft much more interesting. I think Curry is about the safest pick in the Top 10. Having said that, LB isn't the spot you start at when you undertake a massive rebuilding effort.
 
Just looked at ESPN.com. The Lions have eight picks in tomorrow's draft, so they'll have plenty of opportunities. They don't have to take a QB with the first pick, or could trade the No. 1 overall for multiple picks.
 
They certainly don't have to take a QB. They probably would like to avoid that gamble at the top. But when you basically have to rebuild your entire team, why start with a LB who, while I believe will be a solid player, doesn't even rush the passer? If not QB, OL or DL makes sense. On the other hand, maybe Detroit realizes, as I've said before, it's much easier to become competitive by building a defense than an offense. I don't think Curry would be a bad pick; I just don't think he's worth No. 1.
 
pallister said:
They certainly don't have to take a QB. They probably would like to avoid that gamble at the top. But when you basically have to rebuild your entire team, why start with a LB who, while I believe will be a solid player, doesn't even rush the passer? If not QB, OL or DL makes sense. On the other hand, maybe Detroit realizes, as I've said before, it's much easier to become competitive by building a defense than an offense. I don't think Curry would be a bad pick; I just don't think he's worth No. 1.

Because the best QB in the world is not worth a damn to you if you can't protect him.
If the Lions were really smart, they'd pass at No. 1, let the Rams take Jason Smith first overall and then pick up Curry at No. 2. Save probably 10 million and get a guy who is going to help you without the weight of being "first overall" hanging around his neck.
 
pallister said:
They certainly don't have to take a QB. They probably would like to avoid that gamble at the top. But when you basically have to rebuild your entire team, why start with a LB who, while I believe will be a solid player, doesn't even rush the passer? If not QB, OL or DL makes sense. On the other hand, maybe Detroit realizes, as I've said before, it's much easier to become competitive by building a defense than an offense. I don't think Curry would be a bad pick; I just don't think he's worth No. 1.

When a team finishes a season 0-16, they obviously had more holes than swiss cheese. Drafting multiple solid players could fill those holes and begin the rebuilding process.
 
I think it would be best for the Lions to trade the pick for more picks later, but I don't think anyone wants to trade up that high. I'm sure whoever the GM is trying, but I don't even think Snyder would swing that deal.
 
pallister said:
I think it would be best for the Lions to trade the pick for more picks later, but I don't think anyone wants to trade up that high. I'm sure whoever the GM is trying, but I don't even think Snyder would swing that deal.
I agree that Detroit should trade the pick for multiple picks.

I've read plenty of copy about the Jets taking Sanchez or Freeman. I'm not sure that taking a quarterback with the first round pick is the way to go. No one has any idea what Kellen Clemens is, because in the handful of games he started in 2007, he was under siege standing behind an offensive line that could best be described as a sieve.

Offensively, the Jets need guys who can make plays. While they can wear on a defense, other than Leon Washington, the Jets don't have a guy who can break a play (Jerricho Cotchery has a bit of speed, but is more a possession receiver). I think Maclin or Harvin could be the kind of explosive offensive player that the offense longs for.

Defensively, the secondary is solid. At linebacker, Harris, Scott and Pace are a good trio. Playing the 3-4, though, the Jets could use another linebacker. USC's Brian Cushing would be nice and should be around at 17.
 
I think after Alex Smith and Jamarcus Russell, I don't think anyone wants the No. 1 pick anymore.
 

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