Would you cross a picket line?

[Frank_Ridgeway]

Was discussing strikes with someone and he made me wonder: Have the rules changed? Crossing a picket line would have been unthinkable for my generation, but now with unions weakened and the industry floundering, will the taboo still exist if we see another newspaper strike?

 

[Dickens Cider]

If I did, I think my plumber grandfather would come back to life and strangle me.

 

[buckweaver]

I hope I wouldn't. I hope.

To me, it's like "could you shoot a human being if your life were in danger?" Very hard to answer until you're in that situation yourself.

 

[forever_town]

If it got me in the door of a daily, I'd give strong thought to it.

Having said that, I'd also consider the resentment I'd probably experience from striking journos in the event they came back to work and I was expected to work alongside them before I made a final decision.

I don't like the implications that weak unions present our industry. We've seen how bad things are when there isn't a union powerful enough to force the bean counters' hands. But from a purely selfish point of view, if I have a chance to put food on my table and move to a daily from a weekly, I'd have to at least think about it, scab or no.

 

[kleeda]

What's it pay?

 

[Write-brained]

No. It's a no-win situation. Find a new job.

 

[Joe Williams]

Depends where I crossed it. If I was trying to make an opening in the line where some of the asswipe union officers were strutting -- weaklings who collect fat dues for years, rarely push legit grievances, mostly defend the slackingest slackers when they do and would sell out their mothers for a maybe-sorta promise about the future from management -- I'd probably cross. If I saw some co-workers who are good people and were in no better shape to go without a paycheck than me, I wouldn't have the heart.

Similarly, if I got off the elevator and the first people I saw where the scumbag executives who have gotten us to this point -- as a paper on strike, presumably, and an industry in crisis -- I'd probably turn around and walk out again.

In other words, I'm with Buck: Hard to answer until you're in that situation yourself.

 

[pseudo]

As someone whose union (not in the newspaper industry) was half an hour from striking when our contract expired March 31?

No. I was scheduled for a shift on the picket line the next morning, and I still believe we should have walked out instead of caving in to the company's version of a "fair" deal.

That said, I don't have kids to feed or a mortgage to pay, so feel free to adjust your answers accordingly.

 

[Write-brained]

Depends where I crossed it. If I was trying to make an opening in the line where some of the asswipe union officers were strutting -- weaklings who collect fat dues for years, rarely push legit grievances, mostly defend the slackingest slackers when they do and would sell out their mothers for a maybe-sorta promise about the future from management -- I'd probably cross. If I saw some co-workers who are good people and were in no better shape to go without a paycheck than me, I wouldn't have the heart.

Similarly, if I got off the elevator and the first people I saw where the scumbag executives who have gotten us to this point -- as a paper on strike, presumably, and an industry in crisis -- I'd probably turn around and walk out again.

In other words, I'm with Buck: Hard to answer until you're in that situation yourself.

I've never been with a union paper, but I would imagine I would weigh all these questions in my mind before I did. In fact, I would include questions about the union in my normal research of a prospective paper: Does it protect/encourage the lazy, is there a strikeable issue on the horizon?

I feel pretty safe saying no, I wouldn't cross. If you commit, you commit.

Plus, strikes are serious **** that bring out the true cretins. You may put your family's finances in jeopardy if you don't cross, but you could put your family in serious jeopardy if you do.

Like I said, it's best just to avoid if you can.

 

[Joe Williams]

This is one of those hypotheticals, of course, because there aren't going to be any striking newspaper employees anymore. Zero leverage when a handful of managers can put out an online version. Don't even have to get the trucks out nowadays. It would be bad for the joint overall, but really, how much worse than the status quo already?

 

[Overrated]

you could put your family in serious jeopardy if you do.

I actually think a picket line of journalists would be less than intimidating.

Sure, some of us are badasses, ;D but not like a trucking company or **** like that.

 

[Write-brained]

you could put your family in serious jeopardy if you do.

I actually think a picket line of journalists would be less than intimidating.

Sure, some of us are badasses, ;D but not like a trucking company or **** like that.

Bad assumption.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=990CE7DD133CF935A3575AC0A963958260

 

[Overrated]

you could put your family in serious jeopardy if you do.

I actually think a picket line of journalists would be less than intimidating.

Sure, some of us are badasses, ;D but not like a trucking company or **** like that.

Bad assumption.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=990CE7DD133CF935A3575AC0A963958260

Well, it's Detroit. I wouldn't cross a picket line in Detroit.

 

[Write-brained]

Remember, truck drivers and presspeople can be part of the strike. I couldn't find the photo online, but I remember seeing a picture in Ben Bradlee's book of a striker with a sign that says, "Phil killed the wrong Graham."

Strikes make people absolutely outrageous.

 

[Dickens Cider]

you could put your family in serious jeopardy if you do.

I actually think a picket line of journalists would be less than intimidating.

Sure, some of us are badasses, ;D but not like a trucking company or **** like that.

Bad assumption.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=990CE7DD133CF935A3575AC0A963958260

Well, it's Detroit. I wouldn't cross a picket line in Detroit.

No, but you would tip a car or sucker-punch a cop in Detroit.

 

[Write-brained]

you could put your family in serious jeopardy if you do.

I actually think a picket line of journalists would be less than intimidating.

Sure, some of us are badasses, ;D but not like a trucking company or **** like that.

Bad assumption.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=990CE7DD133CF935A3575AC0A963958260

Well, it's Detroit. I wouldn't cross a picket line in Detroit.

:D

 

[Overrated]

you could put your family in serious jeopardy if you do.

I actually think a picket line of journalists would be less than intimidating.

Sure, some of us are badasses, ;D but not like a trucking company or **** like that.

Bad assumption.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=990CE7DD133CF935A3575AC0A963958260

Well, it's Detroit. I wouldn't cross a picket line in Detroit.

No, but you would tip a car or sucker-punch a cop in Detroit.

Well, duh.

This was my favorite part of the story - the last graf.

Chief Thomas Derocha of the Sterling Heights Police Department said demonstrators began throwing half-pound pieces of steel used to make automobile steering columns, apparently stolen from a nearby plant.

 

[BigSleeper]

Early in my career, when pondering the what-ifs of this kind of situation and how it could benefit me, I believed I would cross.

Now, I agree with those who say to go find another job. Besides, my grandfather was a newspaper printer and a big-time union man who fought through a prolonged strike in the 1960s. If I ever crossed, he'd probably crawl out his grave and pour hot lead down my throat and engrave "scab" across my forehead.

 

[Overrated]

Although in reality I probably wouldn't cross my newspaper's picket line, I wouldn't think twice about crossing the MLB picket line should the players ever strike again.

 

[forever_town]

This is one of those hypotheticals, of course, because there aren't going to be any striking newspaper employees anymore. Zero leverage when a handful of managers can put out an online version.

Negative leverage when newspapers can fire people who go on strike and quickly hire willing kids out of college.

Build a relationship with people on your beat? Not when we can hire someone who'll work for $18K and doesn't have a family to support AND who can take his own photos, design pages and edit copy.