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CarltonBanks said:
Stitch said:
I wonder how long Jeffs' hold on FLDS will last. Arizona and Utah have to do something with the United Effort Plan trust that owns a lot of homes and businesses in Colorado City and Hilldale.

The 10th Circuit ordered a stay in April to prevent the trust from going back to the FLDS Church.
Without being eligible for parole until he is 90, I doubt his hold can possibly last. There will be a new false prophet to come along, singing songs and promising salvation.

I've got to get to work on my compound in central Utah. Seriously, though, is the fundamentalist movement is growing. I've known a couple of people who left the LDS Church to join. The mom of one of the "Sister Wives" left her husband and the LDS Church to marry the husband's dad.
 
Deeper_Background said:
We'll see if the media can finally discover that Romney's great great grandaddy had 12 wives next year. http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2007/02/five-wives-for-miles-romney.html

I would guess that a bulk of our great-great grandfathers used to own slaves. It would make as much sense to blame us for that as it would to blame Mittens for what his great-great grandfather did.
 
Mizzougrad96 said:
Deeper_Background said:
We'll see if the media can finally discover that Romney's great great grandaddy had 12 wives next year. http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2007/02/five-wives-for-miles-romney.html

I would guess that a bulk of our great-great grandfathers used to own slaves. It would make as much sense to blame us for that as it would to blame Mittens for what his great-great grandfather did.
his great grandaddy married his 5th wife long after it was illegal under federal law
 
I always think it's odd when LDS members act like FLDS is nothing like them, and declare they are not Mormons at all.

But, then get offended when some Christian Churches do not consider LDS to be Christian.

How do you square that?
 
Deeper_Background said:
Mizzougrad96 said:
Deeper_Background said:
We'll see if the media can finally discover that Romney's great great grandaddy had 12 wives next year. http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2007/02/five-wives-for-miles-romney.html

I would guess that a bulk of our great-great grandfathers used to own slaves. It would make as much sense to blame us for that as it would to blame Mittens for what his great-great grandfather did.
his great grandaddy married his 5th wife long after it was illegal under federal law

Your point or more useless drivel?
 
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YankeeFan said:
I always think it's odd when LDS members act like FLDS is nothing like them, and declare they are not Mormons at all.

But, then get offended when some Christian Churches do not consider LDS to be Christian.

How do you square that?

You talk about branding enough, so I'd think you'd know. Mormon is the "brand" for the LDS Church. Christian is a not a "brand" in that sense. While the LDS Church and others claim to be the "true" Christian church, Christian itself is not a brand.
 
Stitch said:
CarltonBanks said:
Stitch said:
I wonder how long Jeffs' hold on FLDS will last. Arizona and Utah have to do something with the United Effort Plan trust that owns a lot of homes and businesses in Colorado City and Hilldale.

The 10th Circuit ordered a stay in April to prevent the trust from going back to the FLDS Church.
Without being eligible for parole until he is 90, I doubt his hold can possibly last. There will be a new false prophet to come along, singing songs and promising salvation.

I've got to get to work on my compound in central Utah. Seriously, though, is the fundamentalist movement is growing. I've known a couple of people who left the LDS Church to join. The mom of one of the "Sister Wives" left her husband and the LDS Church to marry the husband's dad.
Are you serious? That's quite disturbing when you think about it. I really do not understand how adults with any semblance of intelligence at all can look at a 40-plus man with a 12 year old and think it is anything but disgusting.
 
CarltonBanks said:
Stitch said:
CarltonBanks said:
Stitch said:
I wonder how long Jeffs' hold on FLDS will last. Arizona and Utah have to do something with the United Effort Plan trust that owns a lot of homes and businesses in Colorado City and Hilldale.

The 10th Circuit ordered a stay in April to prevent the trust from going back to the FLDS Church.
Without being eligible for parole until he is 90, I doubt his hold can possibly last. There will be a new false prophet to come along, singing songs and promising salvation.

I've got to get to work on my compound in central Utah. Seriously, though, is the fundamentalist movement is growing. I've known a couple of people who left the LDS Church to join. The mom of one of the "Sister Wives" left her husband and the LDS Church to marry the husband's dad.
Are you serious? That's quite disturbing when you think about it. I really do not understand how adults with any semblance of intelligence at all can look at a 40-plus man with a 12 year old and think it is anything but disgusting.

The two I knew were older and left their husbands to join fundamentalist groups in Utah (not FLDS). One was my roommate's mom. My roommate, along with his dad and older brother, went up to Utah to take back the younger kids after she took them.

I worked with a guy whose dad, a member of a small fundamentalist group, (they weren't in contact anymore) was on the run in Mexico for kidnapping.

When I was in my early 20s, LDS Church leaders warned women to be careful at church dances because polygamous guys would come down to look for wives. They were successful at drawing several to their groups.
 
Stitch said:
YankeeFan said:
I always think it's odd when LDS members act like FLDS is nothing like them, and declare they are not Mormons at all.

But, then get offended when some Christian Churches do not consider LDS to be Christian.

How do you square that?

You talk about branding enough, so I'd think you'd know. Mormon is the "brand" for the LDS Church. Christian is a not a "brand" in that sense. While the LDS Church and others claim to be the "true" Christian church, Christian itself is not a brand.

So, they're similar, but it's like a case of copyright infringement?

Is their logo too similar to yours.

Sorry, but I don't think your comparison works.

If you want to say the LDS Church owns the "Mormon" brand fine, but then what is the generic term?
 
YankeeFan said:
Stitch said:
YankeeFan said:
I always think it's odd when LDS members act like FLDS is nothing like them, and declare they are not Mormons at all.

But, then get offended when some Christian Churches do not consider LDS to be Christian.

How do you square that?

You talk about branding enough, so I'd think you'd know. Mormon is the "brand" for the LDS Church. Christian is a not a "brand" in that sense. While the LDS Church and others claim to be the "true" Christian church, Christian itself is not a brand.

So, they're similar, but it's like a case of copyright infringement?

Is their logo too similar to yours.

Sorry, but I don't think your comparison works.

If you want to say the LDS Church owns the "Mormon" brand fine, but then what is the generic term?

The LDS Church wants to own the brand. It's funny because the LDS Church tried to move away from using Mormon in the '80s and '90s. I don't think it will be successful dissuading the use of the term "fundamentalist Mormon" outside of Utah.

A sidenote is the RLDS aren't considered Mormon and that church changed its name to Community of Christ several years ago.
 
CarltonBanks said:
I think the whole Jeff and Alice Lundgren situation is another reason why the rest of the country would not accept them. I have been by that farm where the Averys were killed a few times...it is amazing how close to the road and other houses it is.

How many times were they killed? :D
 
Double J said:
CarltonBanks said:
I think the whole Jeff and Alice Lundgren situation is another reason why the rest of the country would not accept them. I have been by that farm where the Averys were killed a few times...it is amazing how close to the road and other houses it is.

How many times were they killed? :D
That cracked me up. And I used to be an editor...
 
CarltonBanks said:
Double J said:
CarltonBanks said:
I think the whole Jeff and Alice Lundgren situation is another reason why the rest of the country would not accept them. I have been by that farm where the Averys were killed a few times...it is amazing how close to the road and other houses it is.

How many times were they killed? :D
That cracked me up. And I used to be an editor...

That was pretty good.
 

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