Under / over on # of Cuban Americans moving back to Cuba after Castro dies

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heyabbott

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After 40+ years of listening to the South Floridians of the Cuban diaspora dictate American policy towards Cuba and listening to them proclaim their love of Cuba, and listening to them pray for his death; how many are actually going back after he dies?
The current under over is 4 1/2 persons, I'm betting the under.


MIAMI - The city of Miami is planning an official celebration at the
Orange Bowl whenever Cuban president
Fidel Castro dies.
Discussions by a committee appointed earlier this month by the city commission to plan the event have even covered issues such as a theme to be printed on T-shirts, what musicians would perform, the cost and how long the celebration would last.

Such a gathering has long been part of the city's plan for Castro's death, but firming up the specifics has been more urgent since Castro became ill last summer and turned over power to his brother, Raul.City Commissioner Tomas Regalado, a Cuban American, came up with the idea of using the Orange Bowl, noting that the stadium was the site of a speech by President Kennedy in 1961 promising a free Cuba, and that in the 1980s it served as a camp for refugees from the Mariel boatlift from Cuba.

"(Castro) represents everything bad that has happened to the people of Cuba for 48 years," Regalado told The Miami Herald for a story in Monday editions. "There is something to celebrate, regardless of what happens next."

Former state Rep. Luis Morse stressed the need for an uplifting theme for the party — one not preoccupied with a human being's passing.

Critics have accused the city of dictating where people should party, with many preferring to celebrate on the streets of Little Havana. The city says the Orange Bowl celebration would not preclude that.

"This is not a mandatory site," Regalado said of the Orange Bowl. "Just a place for people to gather."

Ramon Saul Sanchez, leader of the Miami-based Democracy Movement organization, worries about how a party to celebrate a man's death would be perceived by people outside the Cuban exile community.

Sanchez also pointed out that, even after Castro dies, his communist government still will be in place.

"The notion of a big party, I think, should be removed from all this," Sanchez said. "Although everybody will be very happy that the dictator cannot continue to oppress us himself, I think everybody is still very sad because there are still prisons full of prisoners, many people executed, and families divided.
 
First, what makes you think anything changes at all when Castro dies? Second, it's kind of morbid to celebrate someone's death.
 
Oh, there will be plenty of Ahmed Chalabi wannabes, who think they have all the answers, know the country (which they haven't seen in decades) like the back of their hand, and believe that they'll win over the Cuban people with ease. And they'll be in for a rude awakening.
 
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Who cares about their baseball players? Who was the last one to have a serious impact? Contreras?
 
Mizzougrad96 said:
Tony Montana would like to go back...

And Michael Corleone. Now he can finally get that casino project underway.
 
heyabbott said:
MIAMI - The city of Miami is planning an official celebration at the Orange Bowl whenever Cuban president Fidel Castro dies.
Discussions by a committee appointed earlier this month by the city commission to plan the event have even covered issues such as a theme to be printed on T-shirts, what musicians would perform, the cost and how long the celebration would last.

Now THAT would be a hell of a party.

Screw MLB draft-eligible. Now Cohiba cigars won't be so effing expensive. :D
 
cranberry said:
First, what makes you think anything changes at all when Castro dies? Second, it's kind of morbid to celebrate someone's death.
After he dies Cuba may reform slightly but if anyone thinks its going back to Batista days is living in a dreamworld.
And yes, you're right. It's morbid.
 
They will be partying like its 1999. It won't change Cuba though. Too many years have passed. A lot has changed.
 
Indeed, looks like Cuba will change, hopefully for the better, but early indicators point to the changes being modest. Looks like Raul will take the helm and assume a Krushchev-type role as one who brings a bit more of a human face to the regime without changing its essential essence.

Of course, history can be wacky, so who knows. But yes, the Batista days are gone for good.
 
I don't think much will change if and when Fidel assumes room temperature. Will Havana be Miami South? Not a chance.

Under/over on # of Cuban Americans heading back? Zilch.
 
it's gonna get really ugly over there. there are a lot of people who owned property that castro took. some - more than 4 1/2 but maybe not thousands - will go back and want to reclaim the property. so yeah, some ugliness.

but as a south florida resident, if a few hundred thousand folks decided to get on a boat and go back tomorrow, i'd be thrilled. my commute would be much improved.
 
leo1 said:
it's gonna get really ugly over there. there are a lot of people who owned property that castro took. some - more than 4 1/2 but maybe not thousands - will go back and want to reclaim the property. so yeah, some ugliness.

but as a south florida resident, if a few hundred thousand folks decided to get on a boat and go back tomorrow, i'd be thrilled. my commute would be much improved.

Why do you think people would go back to "reclaim" property? It's gone. Forever. Those folks need to get over it. They lost a civil war more than 50 years ago.
 
However, unlike the Kruschev era, the U.S. will actively attempt to destabilize Raul's regime. You and I know it. We didn't want the USSR falling apart in the 1950s and 1960s, so we didn't do anything of that sort inside the USSR, assuming we could've tried.
 
HejiraHenry said:
cranberry said:
First, what makes you think anything changes at all when Castro dies? Second, it's kind of morbid to celebrate someone's death.

Everything changes when Castro dies.

You still plan on moving if *she* wins?
 

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