Two U.S. Navy vessels collide

[alleyallen]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090320/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_us_navy_ships_collide

Damn! I hate it when this happens. First the Port Royal and now this.

 

[PeteyPirate]

Do they have turn signals?

 

[Football_Bat]

Well I'll be darned. I opened a Yahoo News link and it didn't crash my browser.
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As much naval traffic as there is in some places, I'm surprised this doesn't happen more often.

 

[slappy4428]

Do they have turn signals?

Nice

 

[alleyallen]

Well I'll be darned. I opened a Yahoo News link and it didn't crash my browser.
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As much naval traffic as there is in some places, I'm surprised this doesn't happen more often.

Having been through the straits, as well as the Suez Canal and Gibralter, on several occasions, the amount of precautions they take is actually pretty stunning. That this happened at all is a shock.

Not trying to pick apart your post, but just wanted to provide the sailor's perspective.

 

[write then drink]

Having been through the straits, as well as the Suez Canal and Gibralter, on several occasions, the amount of precautions they take is actually pretty stunning. That this happened at all is a shock.

any thoughts on how this could happen?

 

[alleyallen]

Having been through the straits, as well as the Suez Canal and Gibralter, on several occasions, the amount of precautions they take is actually pretty stunning. That this happened at all is a shock.

any thoughts on how this could happen?

Well, one key point in all this is the height of the USS Hartford when she's transiting on the surface. Even then, she doesn't present as obvious a "view" as a larger, non-submerged vessel might. Couple that with the height of the USS New Orleans and it can be more difficult.

With two surface vessels, this should never happen. But the forward lookouts on the New Orleans may, for some reason, have been unable to spot the Hartford, although that is absolutely their job.

Conversely, the lookouts on the Hartford definitely should have been aware.

The only way this usually happens is if the Hartford got boxed in by other traffic and couldn't do a sufficient course change to avoid the New Orleans.

 

[andyouare?]

And proving that if a butterfly flaps its wings in China, or whatever the hell that saying is. . .

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5i5TtajgUpSm7KY5jf-lCJGHBB-tAD971QMC80

Oil prices rise after news of Hormuz collision
By GEORGE JAHN – 1 hour ago

VIENNA (AP) — Oil prices reversed course and traded higher Friday on news that two U.S. Navy vessels had collided in the Strait of Hormuz, the portal for about 40 percent of all seaborne traded oil last year

 

[Armchair_QB]

And proving that if a butterfly flaps its wings in China, or whatever the hell that saying is. . .

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5i5TtajgUpSm7KY5jf-lCJGHBB-tAD971QMC80

Oil prices rise after news of Hormuz collision
By GEORGE JAHN – 1 hour ago

VIENNA (AP) — Oil prices reversed course and traded higher Friday on news that two U.S. Navy vessels had collided in the Strait of Hormuz, the portal for about 40 percent of all seaborne traded oil last year

And of course the price of gas here went up a dime a gallon over night. No reason for that to happen at all.

 

[Football_Bat]

Hell, the Ayatollah could fart and Big Oil will use it as an excuse.

 

[Shoeless Joe]

plus, throw in the fact that once they did see each other, it's not exactly like they could slam on the brakes.

 

[alleyallen]

plus, throw in the fact that once they did see each other, it's not exactly like they could slam on the brakes.

Lousy government can't even spring for anti-lock breaks.

 

[Big Buckin' agate_monkey]

Their insurance rates are going up.

 

[KevinmH9]

And proving that if a butterfly flaps its wings in China, or whatever the hell that saying is. . .

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5i5TtajgUpSm7KY5jf-lCJGHBB-tAD971QMC80

Oil prices rise after news of Hormuz collision
By GEORGE JAHN – 1 hour ago

VIENNA (AP) — Oil prices reversed course and traded higher Friday on news that two U.S. Navy vessels had collided in the Strait of Hormuz, the portal for about 40 percent of all seaborne traded oil last year

Great...

We'll be at $4.00 a gallon again by May.

 

[Bubbler]

And proving that if a butterfly flaps its wings in China, or whatever the hell that saying is. . .

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5i5TtajgUpSm7KY5jf-lCJGHBB-tAD971QMC80

Oil prices rise after news of Hormuz collision
By GEORGE JAHN – 1 hour ago

VIENNA (AP) — Oil prices reversed course and traded higher Friday on news that two U.S. Navy vessels had collided in the Strait of Hormuz, the portal for about 40 percent of all seaborne traded oil last year

And of course the price of gas here went up a dime a gallon over night. No reason for that to happen at all.

All of the rancor directed at AIG bonuses should be ten-fold for the bull**** the oil companies get away with with their pricing.

 

[User 1019]

plus, throw in the fact that once they did see each other, it's not exactly like they could slam on the brakes.

Lousy government can't even spring for anti-lock breaks.

We've got the same problem.

 

[alleyallen]

plus, throw in the fact that once they did see each other, it's not exactly like they could slam on the brakes.

Lousy government can't even spring for anti-lock breaks.

We've got the same problem.

Wow...I was just kidding. With what vehicles are y'all running into problems?

 

[Oscar Gamble]

Commander of sub that collided with ship is relieved of duty

By Cindy Clayton - The Virginian-Pilot© April 14, 2009

The commanding officer of a Navy nuclear-powered submarine that collided last month with an amphibious ship in the Strait of Hormuz has been relieved of duty, the Navy says.

Rear Adm. Michael J. Connor has relieved Cmdr. Ryan Brookhart of his duty as commanding officer of the submarine Hartford, according to a statement from the Navy.

Brookhart was relieved because of a loss of confidence in his ability to command, the statement said.

Brookhart was in command of the Hartford on March 20 when it collided with the amphibious transport dock New Orleans, the Navy says. Connor decided that there was enough information to make the change.

Investigations into the incident are continuing, the Navy says.

full article: http://hamptonroads.com/2009/04/commander-sub-collided-ship-relieved-duty

DoD video report of the original incident:

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

Yeesh.
I bow to alley on all matters naval, but that story sounds like a career-killer.

 

[PeteyPirate]

The plaque for the lifeboat captains is in the ladies room.