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Opinions are like noses. Everyone has one. Of late, there has been a lot of juvenile name calling. One of those names is troll. What exactly is a troll? Is it someone who will debate you? Is it someone who has an opinion that you don't like? Is it someone you don't like and you don't know them? Let's get serioius on this for a moment. If you want to start with the jackass comments, take it random thoughts. This thread will show just how mature the SportsJournalists.com crowd really is.
 
My definition is a troll is someone who adds nothing to the conversation except to stir the pot. Also, someone who follows someone else to other threads and talks trash about every post they make just to **** them off (Yes, I am guilty of this one. But I got over it).
 
A troll is someone who posts on a message board with the sole intent of pissing off 99% of the people who post there. He (or she) will intentionally post comments that will lead to nasty name-calling.
 

A troll doesn't debate. A troll simply spouts off instigative nonesense in order to get a rise out of other posters.

Debate requires a back and forth with an exchange of opinions and where those opinions come from. Trolls don't bother with such things.
 
Pastor said:

A troll doesn't debate. A troll simply spouts off instigative nonesense in order to get a rise out of other posters.

Debate requires a back and forth with an exchange of opinions and where those opinions come from. Trolls don't bother with such things.


Exactly. For example, a troll would see the running soccer thread and post "Soccer sucks."

That said, posters can go in and out of troll mode. They might specialize in trolling certain categories like politics, global warming or religion. But on other threads be reasonable, intelligent posters.

Trolls are also attention whores.
 
As with most things, few people are actually "trolls".

But we have plenty whose trollish behavior is the rule, not the exception. And the thing is, it's pretty easy to tell who is who.

Click on someone's post history. If everything is trollish, they're a troll.

Yawn is a troll.

Dyepack wasn't always a troll, but eventually his trollishness got the best of him.
 
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Pastor said:

A troll doesn't debate. A troll simply spouts off instigative nonesense in order to get a rise out of other posters.

Debate requires a back and forth with an exchange of opinions and where those opinions come from. Trolls don't bother with such things.


This is the essence of trollery. Sometimes, folks get so riled up that they can't express their views without being abusive, sarcastic or condescending. That's rude and regrettable, but it isn't trolling in the strict sense. A true troll offers little besides insult and provocation and won't engage in a reasoned discussion.
 
I feel foolish for taking the bait with that one. But I'd never read him in action before, so I treated him like a serious poster until he proved otherwise. Hopefully I'll have the sense not feed any more trolls any time soon. I was good about not feeding trolls for a while, but then I got careless. Duh.
 
Zeke12 said:
Dyepack wasn't always a troll, but eventually his trollishness got the best of him.

No. Dyepack was always a troll. There was never a time here when he wasn't pushing his limited little agenda.

Yawn, I don't really have an opinion, because I'm not a political debater. I do tend to think that if people spend ALL their time debating politics, they're very boring people.

Mike Lum ... definite troll tendencies to this point.

boots, whatever you do, don't think that troll is a throw-away term. It's quite real, and they ruin a lot of good times on this board.

And I also get a little weary of the "don't feed the trolls" faction. I'm not going to sit here and chuckle to myself while somebody's being an assclown to me or my friends. I'll call them on it, and that's not going to stop. Sorry.
 
See, shotty, I thought if you could just get Dye off his soapbox, he was fine.

He started and finished as a complete troll, but there was a brief time when he talked about other things. Like the Bears.

Still, mostly a troll.
 
Little Bobby Wordhawk's resume follows him around. See newspagedesigner.com and Poynter, for two.
 
shotglass said:
Zeke12 said:
Dyepack wasn't always a troll, but eventually his trollishness got the best of him.

No. Dyepack was always a troll. There was never a time here when he wasn't pushing his limited little agenda.

Yawn, I don't really have an opinion, because I'm not a political debater. I do tend to think that if people spend ALL their time debating politics, they're very boring people.

Mike Lum ... definite troll tendencies to this point.

boots, whatever you do, don't think that troll is a throw-away term. It's quite real, and they ruin a lot of good times on this board.

And I also get a little weary of the "don't feed the trolls" faction. I'm not going to sit here and chuckle to myself while somebody's being an assclown to me or my friends. I'll call them on it, and that's not going to stop. Sorry.
Shot, you always give good convo. Even if I disagree, I don't consider what you say trollish. There are those who have accused me of being a troll. I say why? Is it because I speak my mind? Is it because I don't go with the pack?
I understand and respect a difference of opinion. It's the name calling and the childish behavior that bothers me to no end. That more than anything leads to the double standards on this board.
 
I don't at all get you being called a troll, boots. I've never remotely thought that.

The most bothersome thing -- and this is something I wish everyone would read and keep in mind -- is that debates are great if you know how to debate. But you get kids or immature adults on here who think if you disagree with them on an issue, they have to denigrate you, your mom and your ancestry.
 
shotglass said:
Little Bobby Wordhawk's resume follows him around. See newspagedesigner.com and Poynter, for two.

You know what I hate? Those who think outing rules don't apply to them.

And that's not just you. That's everyone on the thread that outed him, and all the moderators who didn't do **** about it.

Next time someone on here pisses me off, I'll just design a spiffy page ridiculing them with their real name, then post it and drop enough hints until 17 people post that it's that person. It's already been shown on this board that that's just fine.

The outing rule on here is bull****, and you all know it.
 
imjustagirl said:
Next time someone on here pisses me off, I'll just design a spiffy page ridiculing them with their real name, then post it and drop enough hints until 17 people post that it's that person. It's already been shown on this board that that's just fine.

Yes, IJAG, that worked for me, too.

He was not worthy of the usual courtesies.
 
Shot, I understand why you'd weary of the "don't feed the trolls" mantra. But, having fed them in the past, I can't point to anything good that came from my having been sucked into a pointless exchange. It's a lose-lose situation, really. Ignoring the troll is unsatisfying and engaging the troll is also unsatisfying.
 
shotglass said:
imjustagirl said:
Next time someone on here pisses me off, I'll just design a spiffy page ridiculing them with their real name, then post it and drop enough hints until 17 people post that it's that person. It's already been shown on this board that that's just fine.

Yes, IJAG, that worked for me, too.

He was not worthy of the usual courtesies.

Was he told that? That the "no-outing" rule applied to everyone but him?

Sure, he was a **** on here a lot of the time. But the basic rule of this board, the one we all agree is supposed to be the most important, can not be applied in a willy-nilly fashion, and it's certainly not to be decided by the likes of non-Webmasters.
 
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