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HejiraHenry said:
Zeke12 said:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/02/washington/02lobby.html?_r=2&hp=&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&adxnnlx=1196645643-/EjOA7ht7+Sx3j+JMQ88Zg

Now, I am under no delusions that Democratic gains in the next election will lead to a squeaky-clean Washington, but this story is illuminating, nonetheless.

You delusion is that there will be Democratic gains in 2008. I don't see it.

Eventually, others will see it my way as well. I don't expect the NYT to join me, though.

Henry, I know you're not dumb, so I'll just say this: Get a more informed opinion.
 
1. I'm a pretty hard-core Libertubplican, but even I realize the inevitable in 2008. We're in the midst of a 1994-1996-1998-2000-like swing in the electorate -- wait another four or eight years, the pendulum will swing back. The Dems will gain, they'll propose "radical" change, people will complain about those onerous regulations leading to higher prices and the higher taxes they have to pay for a bucketload of new pork/entitlement programs, et al, and then it'll swing back. The country is in a real anti-government, anti-incumbent mood right now ... we've even seen it hit incumbent Dems in local races.

2. Yes, Republicans tend to be more pro-free market, and so the business lobby will step its act up now. But don't think the business lobby won't step its act up with a Dem administration/Congress, too, and get a little bit of what it wants. And don't think the union lobby is going to get everything it wants with a Dem congress/administration -- especially with regards to immigration.

There's pork & favors to be passed around in administrations of every stripe. In 1994, I used to think Republicans were anti-big government, pro-federalism and anti-wasteful spending, but the big spending and centralization of power in Washington has continued. We used to think the Dems were protectionists who were against free trade, but Clinton signed NAFTA. It's just that Republicans and Democrats have slightly different priorities in how they waste your money and where they concentrate government.
 
HejiraHenry said:
Zeke12 said:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/02/washington/02lobby.html?_r=2&hp=&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&adxnnlx=1196645643-/EjOA7ht7+Sx3j+JMQ88Zg

Now, I am under no delusions that Democratic gains in the next election will lead to a squeaky-clean Washington, but this story is illuminating, nonetheless.

You delusion is that there will be Democratic gains in 2008. I don't see it.

Eventually, others will see it my way as well. I don't expect the NYT to join me, though.

I know we've been around on this before, but at least in the Senate, there are 23 Republican seats up for grabs against 12 Democratic ones. I think the best the Republicans can hope for there is a push. The House will more than likely be a crapshoot.

Where I think the Republicans might benefit is from people being fearful of an all-Democratic government (House, Senate, White House), and therefore being given back control of the House.
 
A change in the political parties after the election just means that a different set of lobbyists get their phone calls returned.
 
If either house of Congress goes back to the GOP in 2008, I'll eat my hat.

But right now, I think the White House is a coin flip.

And that's not altogether a bad thing. Because, as I stated in my very first post 1,137 days ago ... Gridlock is good.
 
HejiraHenry said:
Zeke12 said:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/02/washington/02lobby.html?_r=2&hp=&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&adxnnlx=1196645643-/EjOA7ht7+Sx3j+JMQ88Zg

Now, I am under no delusions that Democratic gains in the next election will lead to a squeaky-clean Washington, but this story is illuminating, nonetheless.

You delusion is that there will be Democratic gains in 2008. I don't see it.

Eventually, others will see it my way as well. I don't expect the NYT to join me, though.


OK, we'll see.
As we did in '06.
 

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