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NDJournalist said:
Bringing back the name will bring fans back. It'll remind them of the good ole days before Shinn ruined everything. Sure, it's not a fix all. That will come once Jordan gets the hang of drafting better. But it's a start.

Don't agree with the premise. New franchise, new people, etc. If the Hornets were such a buzz, they never would have left in the first place (and for New Orleans, no less). All teams have bad seasons. As for Shinn, hey, lots of teams have unlikeable owners. Good franchises withstand that stuff.

I was really puzzled why Charlotte got another team so quickly when other cities did not.
 
Mark2010 said:
NDJournalist said:
Bringing back the name will bring fans back. It'll remind them of the good ole days before Shinn ruined everything. Sure, it's not a fix all. That will come once Jordan gets the hang of drafting better. But it's a start.

Don't agree with the premise. New franchise, new people, etc. If the Hornets were such a buzz, they never would have left in the first place (and for New Orleans, no less). All teams have bad seasons. As for Shinn, hey, lots of teams have unlikeable owners. Good franchises withstand that stuff.

I was really puzzled why Charlotte got another team so quickly when other cities did not.

People realized how much of an asshole George Shinn was, so they stopped going. Also, after Bobby Phills died and David Wesley left, I dont' think there were many players who carried fan appeal.
 
Mark2010 said:
NDJournalist said:
Bringing back the name will bring fans back. It'll remind them of the good ole days before Shinn ruined everything. Sure, it's not a fix all. That will come once Jordan gets the hang of drafting better. But it's a start.

Don't agree with the premise. New franchise, new people, etc. If the Hornets were such a buzz, they never would have left in the first place (and for New Orleans, no less). All teams have bad seasons. As for Shinn, hey, lots of teams have unlikeable owners. Good franchises withstand that stuff.

I was really puzzled why Charlotte got another team so quickly when other cities did not.

To prevent a lawsuit?
 
George Shinn celebrated a sexual assault acquittal in which he admitted that he'd cheated on his wife in Bible Belt Naw' Carolina by calling the Charlotte Coliseum - a building not even 20 years old and built specifically for HIM - outdated and started demanding a new downtown arena. Yeah, it's fascinating that people stopped forking over money to the guy for tickets.
 
Maybe they can bring back the players post practice auto racing that
was so popular with Hornet fans.
 
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Bob Cook said:
Inspired by this, the Chicago Bulls announced next year they will be known as the Zephyrs, the Indiana Pacers will be the Indianapolis Katuskys, and the Detroit Pistons will move back to Fort Wayne.

On a side note, I've often thought that when a team moves, unless they are replaced by another team, that they should come back to their former city for an exhibition game if possible, or, maybe for NFL teams, an open practice or two.

The Kings could play an exhibition in Rochester and/or Cincinnati, and the Bears could host a practice in Decatur, for instance.
 
BitterYoungMatador2 said:
George Shinn celebrated a sexual assault acquittal in which he admitted that he'd cheated on his wife in Bible Belt Naw' Carolina by calling the Charlotte Coliseum - a building not even 20 years old and built specifically for HIM - outdated and started demanding a new downtown arena. Yeah, it's fascinating that people stopped forking over money to the guy for tickets.

He's hardly the first to pull a stunt like that. I don't know much about Shinn, but I do know there are a lot of disliked owners yet the teams manage to survive and even thrive in some instances.
 
Bob Cook said:
Mark2010 said:
NDJournalist said:
Bringing back the name will bring fans back. It'll remind them of the good ole days before Shinn ruined everything. Sure, it's not a fix all. That will come once Jordan gets the hang of drafting better. But it's a start.

Don't agree with the premise. New franchise, new people, etc. If the Hornets were such a buzz, they never would have left in the first place (and for New Orleans, no less). All teams have bad seasons. As for Shinn, hey, lots of teams have unlikeable owners. Good franchises withstand that stuff.

I was really puzzled why Charlotte got another team so quickly when other cities did not.

To prevent a lawsuit?

Doesn't every city that loses a franchise at least talk about suing. I've yet to see anyone win anything.
 
Baron Scicluna said:
The Kings could play an exhibition in Rochester and/or Cincinnati, and the Bears could host a practice in Decatur, for instance.

The Ravens could play in Cleveland, the Thunder in Seattle. I wonder how that would go.
 
Are Ravens-Browns weekends still complete ****shows of hate in Cleveland?
 
Mark2010 said:
NDJournalist said:
Bringing back the name will bring fans back. It'll remind them of the good ole days before Shinn ruined everything. Sure, it's not a fix all. That will come once Jordan gets the hang of drafting better. But it's a start.

Don't agree with the premise. New franchise, new people, etc. If the Hornets were such a buzz, they never would have left in the first place (and for New Orleans, no less). All teams have bad seasons. As for Shinn, hey, lots of teams have unlikeable owners. Good franchises withstand that stuff.

I was really puzzled why Charlotte got another team so quickly when other cities did not.

Because basketball and the NBA was - and is - well received in Charlotte. It was George Shinn who wore out his welcome … and because David Stern couldn't force him to sell, he let Shinn move the team to New Orleans, let the dust settle for a while and then announced a new expansion team in Charlotte.
 
BitterYoungMatador2 said:
George Shinn celebrated a sexual assault acquittal in which he admitted that he'd cheated on his wife in Bible Belt Naw' Carolina by calling the Charlotte Coliseum - a building not even 20 years old and built specifically for HIM - outdated and started demanding a new downtown arena. Yeah, it's fascinating that people stopped forking over money to the guy for tickets.
There's no defending Shinn. He was an asshole of the highest degree. But whoever made the calls on Charlotte Coliseum most definitely screwed up. There were, I think, all of eight luxury boxes in the building. Just no revenue streams at all. It was obsolete the day it opened.
 
It also had 23,000 seats and they banged the place out regularly.

At the time the Coliseum opened, too, I don't think Charlotte was quite the corporate mecca it is today. It might've been pretty hard to sell a lot more suites.
 
The Coliseum wasn't built to lure an NBA team, it was built to bring the ACC Tournament back to Charlotte from Greensboro. All that mattered, when construction began, was that it had 8,000 more seats than the Greensboro Coliseum. Shinn, who had been working toward landing a USFL franchise at the time, then set his sights on an NBA team.
 
Baron Scicluna said:
So does this mean they get back the original Hornets' history, or does New Orleans keep that?
I would think New Orleans keeps it. It's two different franchises.
 
Tarheel316 said:
Baron Scicluna said:
So does this mean they get back the original Hornets' history, or does New Orleans keep that?
I would think New Orleans keeps it. It's two different franchises.

So are the Ravens and Browns, but Cleveland kept the history.
 
Pretty sure the old Hornets' stats and records stay with the Pelicans. The decision to keep the records/stats in Charlotte would have had to have been made the day Shinn took the team to New Orleans.

Now if you're also suggesting New Orleans should own the rights to the Jazz records (pun not intended), I will gladly listen. The Pelicans do have Maravich's No. 7 retired from his Jazz days.
 

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