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fossywriter8

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Don't know if anyone else has heard of this, but we recently received a flier in the mail from a company named enarratives in Sandusky, Ohio. (www.enarratives.com[/b])

Among the services it offers (there is a great one for full-color sports programs from 8 to 32 pages) is a program called SportsWriter. Basically, you type in box score info and the program shoots you back an AP-style story in about 30 seconds. Cost -- $100 per month or $900 per year.

It sounds good (well, at least to bean counters), but just by looking at the samples, it's not.

The flier proudly proclaims SportsWriter can send you a story -- an AP-style story, remember -- written from the point of view of the home team or away team, or from a neutral point of view.

And if you don't like the story, don't worry. Just hit a button and the program will generate another one in a few seconds.

Here's an example of one of the stories written from the perspective of one of the teams provided in the flier:

Pfromm's Double-Double Sets Tone For Patriots In Victory

The Cousino High School Patriots took it to the L'anse Creuse North Crusaders on Saturday, February 3, 50-37. The victory prolongs an eight-game winning streak for the Pats (11-1). A total of 29 free throws were attempted by both teams.

Todd Pfromm was a big help on the inside as he earned 13 boards and scored 12 points. As the tallest player, Matt Balkema had little difficulty snatching six rebounds. The Patriots' Ricky Powell was a key player as he collected nine points with a rebound and two assists. Brad Belkema helped the Patriots control the boards with four rebounds.

When it came to passing, the Patriots finished with five assists compared to the Crusaders' 0.

There may have been more, but that's where the snippet of an example ended. To be fair, the company says the program can be adjusted to provide a story to specific text limit.

The company touts the service as a way to generate round-up stories quickly, freeing up a paper's staff to tackle other projects. Another plus is that the program saves the info in a database so it can be used later for other projects. And it covers a wide range of sports (baseball, basketball, cross country, field hockey, football, golf, gymnastics, ice hockey, lacrosse, soccer, swimming & diving, track & field, volleyball and wrestling).

OK, it has benefits, I can understand that. But I have a few problems with it:

1) As the above story shows, the writing program is horrible. That can be fixed, though, by someone letting the company know what AP style really is. I can just see any editor who's forced to use this program hitting that re-write button hundreds of times per story.

2) I'm afraid the powers that be would jump on this kind of service to slash newsroom costs, forgetting that someone still must type the info into the program to have the story written. That means someone (or more likely a few) must still make calls, answer the phone and make laps back and forth between a computer and fax machine.

3) Because of its terrible style, part-timers and high school interns either won't get a chance to learn how to write a round-up on their own or, worse yet, think what the program spits out is acceptable. That means more time spent by an editor trying to explain why something like "The victory prolongs an eight-game winning streak" is not good form.

Anyway, hate to sound like a Luddite, but is this where the industry is headed?
 
fossywriter8 said:
Anyway, hate to sound like a Luddite, but is this where the industry is headed?

Bangalore, where it sounds like this program was written...

Or Mt. Clemens, one of the two.
 
The Cousino High School Patriots took it to the L'anse Creuse North Crusaders on Saturday, February 3, 50-37. The victory prolongs an eight-game winning streak for the Pats (11-1). A total of 29 free throws were attempted by both teams.

Todd Pfromm was a big help on the inside as he earned 13 boards and scored 12 points. As the tallest player, Matt Balkema had little difficulty snatching six rebounds. The Patriots' Ricky Powell was a key player as he collected nine points with a rebound and two assists. Brad Belkema helped the Patriots control the boards with four rebounds.

When it came to passing, the Patriots finished with five assists compared to the Crusaders' 0.

This made my night. :D ;D
 
This might be the most sienfeld-ish moment in the history of this board.

My roommate from college went to L'Anse Cruese North. My other roommate went to Cousino.
 
Bullwinkle said:
The Cousino High School Patriots took it to the L'anse Creuse North Crusaders on Saturday, February 3, 50-37. The victory prolongs an eight-game winning streak for the Pats (11-1). A total of 29 free throws were attempted by both teams.

Todd Pfromm was a big help on the inside as he earned 13 boards and scored 12 points. As the tallest player, Matt Balkema had little difficulty snatching six rebounds. The Patriots' Ricky Powell was a key player as he collected nine points with a rebound and two assists. Brad Belkema helped the Patriots control the boards with four rebounds.

When it came to passing, the Patriots finished with five assists compared to the Crusaders' 0.

This made my night. :D ;D

Agree. I love the "tallest player" reference.
 
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compared with. it's compared with. dumb machine.

on a bright note, it's better than the esquire story on the killer.
 
I still can't get over the two teams in the brief, and yes Slappy this was probably written in the Mt. Clemens Gibralter Trade Center with some guy who sells stereos and hand-made oven mitts.
 
This is one of those ideas that sounds somewhat decent at first, then gains a little steam, then somebody actually uses it for a while until it keeps spitting out ****ty copy and someone eventually goes, "You know, I could write this myself in about four minutes. It'll be better copy, we won't have to pay for the service and I'm here anyway." And then the lightbulb comes back on and everybody realizes what a bad idea it was in the first place.
 
mustangj17 said:
This might be the most sienfeld-ish moment in the history of this board.

My roommate from college went to L'Anse Cruese North. My other roommate went to Cousino.

Since when did 12-Mile High get dorms?
 
Typing in a box score is often times more of a pain in the ass than typing in the actual gamer wrap.
 
slappy4428 said:
mustangj17 said:
This might be the most sienfeld-ish moment in the history of this board.

My roommate from college went to L'Anse Cruese North. My other roommate went to Cousino.

Since when did 12-Mile High get dorms?

Haha it was actually 696 University.
 
zebracoy said:
Bullwinkle said:
The Cousino High School Patriots took it to the L'anse Creuse North Crusaders on Saturday, February 3, 50-37. The victory prolongs an eight-game winning streak for the Pats (11-1). A total of 29 free throws were attempted by both teams.

Todd Pfromm was a big help on the inside as he earned 13 boards and scored 12 points. As the tallest player, Matt Balkema had little difficulty snatching six rebounds. The Patriots' Ricky Powell was a key player as he collected nine points with a rebound and two assists. Brad Belkema helped the Patriots control the boards with four rebounds.

When it came to passing, the Patriots finished with five assists compared to the Crusaders' 0.

This made my night. :D ;D

Agree. I love the "tallest player" reference.

How would the computer know? Are heights in the box score?
 
mustangj17 said:
slappy4428 said:
mustangj17 said:
This might be the most sienfeld-ish moment in the history of this board.

My roommate from college went to L'Anse Cruese North. My other roommate went to Cousino.

Since when did 12-Mile High get dorms?

Haha it was actually 696 University.
Same place.
 
Pfromm's Double-Double Sets Tone For Patriots In Victory

The Cousino High School Patriots took it to the L'anse Creuse North Crusaders on Saturday, February 3, 50-37. The victory prolongs an eight-game winning streak for the Pats (11-1). A total of 29 free throws were attempted by both teams.

Todd Pfromm was a big help on the inside as he earned 13 boards and scored 12 points. As the tallest player, Matt Balkema underachieved and snatched only six rebounds. The Patriots' Ricky Powell was a key player as he collected nine points with a rebound and two assists. Brad Belkema helped the Patriots control the boards with four rebounds.

When it came to passing, the Patriots finished with five assists compared to the Crusaders' 0.

Fixed.

And zero assists? Will enarrative also provide a sidebar about the L'anse Creuse North squad, which is apparently built around an isolation offense that only scores on one-on-one plays and offensive boards?
 
Can the program write you a hokey lead for a game played on a Friday the 13th, a week before Christmas or on the star player's birthday?
 
playthrough said:
Can the program write you a hokey lead for a game played on a Friday the 13th, a week before Christmas or on the star player's birthday?

No, but it can earn the star player a college scholarship.
 

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