SI's Title IX Issue

[Boom_70]

This week SI devoted their entire issue to celebrating 40 years of Title IX signed into law by ...... Richard Nixon.

Ironic

 

[Armchair_QB]

Title IX was landmark legislation but devoting an entire regular weekly issue to it is ridiculous.

 

[LongTimeListener]

Did Joe Cowley write a guest column?

 

[Mystery Meat II]

I thought this read "SJ's Title IX Issue" and thought maybe someone was suing for more female posters. You'd know something was fishy when Pickle Juice was named a moderator.

 

[outofplace]

Title IX was landmark legislation but devoting an entire regular weekly issue to it is ridiculous.

Why not devote an issue to it, given the impact it has had on the sports culture in the United States? There is a lot that can be written on the subject and I see nothing wrong with doing something a little different.

 

[poindexter]

SI does a Title IX issue faithfully every February.

 

[Dyno]

On my iPad, I'm scrolling through the slideshow of the top 40 women athletes of the Title IX era. On each page, there's an ad to download the SI Swimsuit issue app. Interesting juxtaposition there.

I started kindergarten 2 months after Title IX was passed. I had male gym teachers throughout elementary school who had no interest in what girls could do athletically. I was small for my age and not very coordinated. I got no encouragement from those teachers and never developed any interest in participating in anything athletic. I did the best I could to avoid gym. When forced to, I tried as hard as I could, but I sucked and it was embarrassing. Gym was the only school thing I wasn't good at. To this day, I avoid exercise like the plague (there are some health-related reasons for that, too). I sometimes wonder if I'd gone to school after Title IX had been around longer if maybe my gym teachers would have been more enlightened and encouraged the girls more.

 

[poindexter]

Where were your parents?

 

[Dyno]

Neither of my parents was athletic or did any kind of regular exercise. I don't blame the gym teachers for my lack of athletic interest now. I've had plenty of time to overcome that on my own. I just look at it like academics. I had teachers when I was young who encouraged me academically and that made a difference. Just makes me wonder if it would have made a difference on the athletics side, too.

 

[bigpern23]

Title IX was landmark legislation but devoting an entire regular weekly issue to it is ridiculous.

Why not devote an issue to it, given the impact it has had on the sports culture in the United States? There is a lot that can be written on the subject and I see nothing wrong with doing something a little different.

I'm with OOP on this one. I haven't read the issue, but I'm sure there's plenty of material worthy of coverage.

 

[LongTimeListener]

As a contrarian piece, I wouldn't mind reading something about how much in scholarships has been transferred over the years from poor and working-class black (and Hispanic) boys to rich and upper-middle-class white girls. From scholarship cuts in football to men's basketball to drastic cuts and often elimination of track, wrestling and baseball, that's a few thousand scholarships a year. Those scholarships are instead going to sports like swimming, soccer, gymnastics, golf -- even basketball is a much more suburban sport for girls than it is for boys.

The total dollar figure would be pretty large. And I'm guessing that in the abstract, most Title IX supporters would share the view that increasing educational opportunities for underprivileged kids is a worthy goal and should be a priority of the university system.

Probably not a story for a celebration issue, though.

 

[micropolitan guy]

There's plenty of other material in the edition than Title IX stories, and on the whole it's been a great law, albeit one with some unintended consequences, some of which LTL has detailed.

Reading the Title IX timeline along the bottom of the pages, the 1990s Illinois ruling that men cannot use Title IX to sue when their sport is dropped for "budgetary reasons," a euphamism for dropping men's sports to achieve proportionality, but that women can, is an interesting application of the concept of equal rights under the law.

 

[Armchair_QB]

There's plenty of other material in the edition than Title IX stories, and on the whole it's been a great law, albeit one with some unintended consequences, some of which LTL has detailed.

Reading the Title IX timeline along the bottom of the pages, the 1990s Illinois ruling that men cannot use Title IX to sue when their sport is dropped for "budgetary reasons," a euphamism for dropping men's sports to achieve proportionality, but that women can, is an interesting application of the concept of equal rights under the law.

I would say that Donna Lopiano & the Women's Sports Foundation don't consider the consequences unitended at all. Title IX has never been about equality to them.

 

[outofplace]

There's plenty of other material in the edition than Title IX stories, and on the whole it's been a great law, albeit one with some unintended consequences, some of which LTL has detailed.

Reading the Title IX timeline along the bottom of the pages, the 1990s Illinois ruling that men cannot use Title IX to sue when their sport is dropped for "budgetary reasons," a euphamism for dropping men's sports to achieve proportionality, but that women can, is an interesting application of the concept of equal rights under the law.

I would say that Donna Lopiano & the Women's Sports Foundation don't consider the consequences unitended at all. Title IX has never been about equality to them.

And now we understand where your criticism of the issue comes from. How is wanting equality for the group they represent a bad thing?

 

[Armchair_QB]

There's plenty of other material in the edition than Title IX stories, and on the whole it's been a great law, albeit one with some unintended consequences, some of which LTL has detailed.

Reading the Title IX timeline along the bottom of the pages, the 1990s Illinois ruling that men cannot use Title IX to sue when their sport is dropped for "budgetary reasons," a euphamism for dropping men's sports to achieve proportionality, but that women can, is an interesting application of the concept of equal rights under the law.

I would say that Donna Lopiano & the Women's Sports Foundation don't consider the consequences unitended at all. Title IX has never been about equality to them.

And now we understand where your criticism of the issue comes from. How is wanting equality for the group they represent a bad thing?

Title IX was, is, a tremendous piece of legislation. It was designed primarily to address academic inequality but is also wound up revolutionizing women's athletics and that's a good thing. No one should dispute that and I certainly don't.

Wanting equality is a good thing too. But that's not the WSF's goal. Never has been, despite what they say.

 

[outofplace]

There's plenty of other material in the edition than Title IX stories, and on the whole it's been a great law, albeit one with some unintended consequences, some of which LTL has detailed.

Reading the Title IX timeline along the bottom of the pages, the 1990s Illinois ruling that men cannot use Title IX to sue when their sport is dropped for "budgetary reasons," a euphamism for dropping men's sports to achieve proportionality, but that women can, is an interesting application of the concept of equal rights under the law.

I would say that Donna Lopiano & the Women's Sports Foundation don't consider the consequences unitended at all. Title IX has never been about equality to them.

And now we understand where your criticism of the issue comes from. How is wanting equality for the group they represent a bad thing?

Title IX was, is, a tremendous piece of legislation. It was designed primarily to address academic inequality but is also wound up revolutionizing women's athletics and that's a good thing. No one should dispute that and I certainly don't.

Wanting equality is a good thing too. But that's not the WSF's goal. Never has been, despite what they say.

Funny. The way you question their words makes me question your lip service to Title IX.

 

[Bubbler]

Did they do any painted-on model spreads for the Title IX issue?

 

[Jake_Taylor]

As a contrarian piece, I wouldn't mind reading something about how much in scholarships has been transferred over the years from poor and working-class black (and Hispanic) boys to rich and upper-middle-class white girls. From scholarship cuts in football to men's basketball to drastic cuts and often elimination of track, wrestling and baseball, that's a few thousand scholarships a year. Those scholarships are instead going to sports like swimming, soccer, gymnastics, golf -- even basketball is a much more suburban sport for girls than it is for boys.

The total dollar figure would be pretty large. And I'm guessing that in the abstract, most Title IX supporters would share the view that increasing educational opportunities for underprivileged kids is a worthy goal and should be a priority of the university system.

Probably not a story for a celebration issue, though.

Title IX started out good, but it went too far.

 

[Boom_70]

President Nixon signing Title IX bill.

Republicans have not been all bad for women's rights.

 

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As a contrarian piece, I wouldn't mind reading something about how much in scholarships has been transferred over the years from poor and working-class black (and Hispanic) boys to rich and upper-middle-class white girls. From scholarship cuts in football to men's basketball to drastic cuts and often elimination of track, wrestling and baseball, that's a few thousand scholarships a year. Those scholarships are instead going to sports like swimming, soccer, gymnastics, golf -- even basketball is a much more suburban sport for girls than it is for boys.

The total dollar figure would be pretty large. And I'm guessing that in the abstract, most Title IX supporters would share the view that increasing educational opportunities for underprivileged kids is a worthy goal and should be a priority of the university system.

Probably not a story for a celebration issue, though.

Asking this with zero sarcasm: Why are upper middle class white girls less worthy of athletics than poor/working-class minority boys?