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Drip said:
There's no way this guy should remain with the Eagles.This has created a huge problem for a team trying to rebound from a 4-12 season. Players are saying they can forgive him but can't forget. One player said it best, "If he's on the team, he's on the team. That doesn't mean I have to like him."
I understand Goodell's hands being tied and I credit Lurie and the Eagles for their swift response.

Yes, Riley Cooper is the only guy in the NFL who isn't liked by his teammates. Everywhere else it's rainbows and unicorns...
 
DanOregon said:
I love the white talk hosts who want to "expand the conversation" and talk about hip-hop artists using the term. Yes, if the word is bad, it's bad. And for those that don't understand context, when a white person says it, it is almost always in the demeaning and derogatory sense (I'm better than you) - in hip-hop it isn't.
And sure, Whitlock has been all over this, and he's right. We should all want to set a better example for others - but white people thinking it's okay to say the word because black artists do? They really know better and are just looking for cover.

Don't use the word, don't really respect people who do. It just makes me feel uncomfortable, as a white male. I want nothing to do with it. That being said, I've never really understood the difference between white people saying it and black people saying it. Of course I get the history behind it, but if a word is offensive, it's offensive. Period. It's hard to play both sides of the coin there.

Can a gay guy call another gay guy a faggot? Is that OK? Can an Asian call another Asian a chink, or whatever derogatory term comes with being Asian? I guess people can feel however they want to feel about it, but to me, if you're truly offended by something, you don't say it.

On another note, the NFL won't take an action against Cooper past the team discipline, which appears to be just a sizable fine. Not saying that's right or wrong, but there needs to be consistency. In the realm of slurs, where does this stack up against a gay slur? This seems to be getting a lot more traction than, say, Roy Hibbert, or Kobe Bryant, or Roger McDowell.
 
so its ok that the Eagles have a violent,sadistic felon on the team, but a simple ass drunk that makes a derogatory comment should be fired?

he apologized, was punished and his QB forgives him. get over it
 
heyabbott said:
so its ok that the Eagles have a violent,sadistic felon on the team, but a simple ass drunk that makes a derogatory comment should be fired?

he apologized, was punished and his QB forgives him. get over it
If only it were that easy.
 
Bodie_Broadus said:
At my old station when I worked in NYC, I heard that word in the break room more than any other word. I remember hearing two Spanish guys dropping it every two minutes in a conversation, I'm sitting in the corner pretending to not hear it.

I started shaking my head, one of them asked me "what're you shaking your head for?"

I told him, "I'm not black, but if I was and you used that word as much as you two did in that conversation in front of me, I'd be out of a job because I'd have put your head through the ****ing wall."

It's not okay to say, not even the way you guys used it on this thread, we all know what Cooper said, so why repeat it?
This coming from a guy that called Cooper a cracker. And then said "cracker" is not a racist term.
 
Cooper's apology seemed sincere, so I wonder where the urge to make that statement came from.
 
BenPoquette said:
Bodie_Broadus said:
At my old station when I worked in NYC, I heard that word in the break room more than any other word. I remember hearing two Spanish guys dropping it every two minutes in a conversation, I'm sitting in the corner pretending to not hear it.

I started shaking my head, one of them asked me "what're you shaking your head for?"

I told him, "I'm not black, but if I was and you used that word as much as you two did in that conversation in front of me, I'd be out of a job because I'd have put your head through the ****ing wall."

It's not okay to say, not even the way you guys used it on this thread, we all know what Cooper said, so why repeat it?
This coming from a guy that called Cooper a cracker. And then said "cracker" is not a racist term.

As I said before, the next person I meet who is offended by the term cracker will be the first.
 
Bodie_Broadus said:
Cracker has absolutely no meaning to me, or any other white person I know, as a racial slur.

The way you relate so personally to the African-American experience, it's always so hard to remember you are white.
 
Armchair_QB said:
I'm offended.

What do I win?

A box of these but you have to supply the cheese.

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It's certainly a racial term, as you wouldn't use it to refer to someone who isn't white. And, it's not a complimentary term.

If you can think of another racial term, that is not complimentary, yet is not considered racist, I'd like to hear it.
 
I sorta hate myself for getting involved in this argument and I know Wikipedia isn't a perfect source, but according to it:

Cracker, sometimes white cracker or cracka, is a derogatory term for white people,[1] especially poor rural whites in the Southern United States. In reference to a native of Florida or Georgia, however, it is sometimes used in a neutral or positive context and is sometimes used self-descriptively with pride.[2]

That said, feel free to call me cracker as much as you want, I'm fairly thick-skinned about that kind of thing. :)
 
YankeeFan said:
It's certainly a racial term, as you wouldn't use it to refer to someone who isn't white. And, it's not a complimentary term.

If you can think of another racial term, that is not complimentary, yet is not considered racist, I'd like to hear it.

Mick.
 
Bodie_Broadus said:
YankeeFan said:
It's certainly a racial term, as you wouldn't use it to refer to someone who isn't white. And, it's not a complimentary term.

If you can think of another racial term, that is not complimentary, yet is not considered racist, I'd like to hear it.

Mick.

You're an idiot. Mick is racist.

Call the wrong person a Mick, and he'll put your head through a wall.
 
Bodie_Broadus said:
YankeeFan said:
It's certainly a racial term, as you wouldn't use it to refer to someone who isn't white. And, it's not a complimentary term.

If you can think of another racial term, that is not complimentary, yet is not considered racist, I'd like to hear it.

Mick.

I had a teacher in high school named Fitzmorris who had to be held back after a student from another school called him a mick. I think he found it offensive.
 
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