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How do you write a relay when a coach says “four by one.”

Is it “four-by-one”? Is it “4 x 1”?

What's the proper way to write this? Naturally, it goes the same with a 4 x 4 and 43 x 8.

Thanks.
 
Platyrhynchos said:
How do you write a relay when a coach says “four by one.”

Is it “four-by-one”? Is it “4 x 1”?

What's the proper way to write this? Naturally, it goes the same with a 4 x 4 and 43 x 8.

Thanks.

The coach is speaking in shorthand that would be confusing to most readers. I would paraphrase it.

Normally, though, I would write it as the 4 x 100 relay or the 400 relay (which avoids the trouble altogether).
 
Coaches and officials say "4 by 100."

I agree with those who say by far the easiest way to deal with this is to say 400 or 1,600 relay...
 
I believe in a quote you'd probably paraphrase and say 4x100, unless you had mentioned it that way fairly recently in the story. If it's something like...

Podunk High's 4x100 meter relay team of Sue Blowme, Ivana Humpya, Sally Rideallnight and Jill Drunkenwhore edged Shelbyville by two-tenths of a second. Drunkenwhore pulled out the win with a strong anchor leg, running her segment in 11.53 seconds.
"We did a great job in the four-by-one," Podunk coach Brenda Notalesbian said. "That Drunkenwhore can really go, let me tell you."

...then you'd go with the direct quote. Otherwise, paraphrase and go with 4x100 or (4x100).

Personally, though, I try to avoid using "400-meter relay", "1,600-meter relay", etc. Even though it's probably the right way to do it, to me it's a little confusing. 400-meter relay sounds like each person was running 400 meters, not 100. So I prefer 4x100, 4x200, etc.
 
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Batman said:
Personally, though, I try to avoid using "400-meter relay", "1,600-meter relay", etc. Even though it's probably the right way to do it, to me it's a little confusing. 400-meter relay sounds like each person was running 400 meters, not 100. So I prefer 4x100, 4x200, etc.

Only six people actually read the track stories, so I don't worry too much about confusing those six.
 
SCEditor said:
Batman said:
Personally, though, I try to avoid using "400-meter relay", "1,600-meter relay", etc. Even though it's probably the right way to do it, to me it's a little confusing. 400-meter relay sounds like each person was running 400 meters, not 100. So I prefer 4x100, 4x200, etc.

Only six people actually read the track stories, so I don't worry too much about confusing those six.

Hey, buddy, there are 80 kids on the track team. Granted, 70 of them are there just to be on a team and hang out with their friends and jump on the mats, but still.

I actually got a coach to admit that a few weeks ago. It was a proud moment.
 
"We liked the way our (4x100) ran today," said the coach. ... but I like the idea of paraphrasing. Gonna have to be a good quote to add a parenthetical.

Also, 4x100 relay is redundant.
 
Clever username said:
Hey, buddy, there are 80 kids on the track team. Granted, 70 of them are there just to be on a team and hang out with their friends and jump on the mats, but still.

I actually got a coach to admit that a few weeks ago. It was a proud moment.

And because there are twice as many kids on the track team than the baseball team, they should get twice as much coverage. Of course.
 
sportschick said:
write then drink said:
never use X

"4-by-8"

Depends on your paper's style. Every one I've worked at used an X. I don't like it, but I'm not in charge.

every sports editor you've had has been old, haven't they?
 
SCEditor said:
I prefer 400-meter relay, 400 relay on second reference.

AP style, and a good and correct style it is.

Had a coach ask me why I did it that way rather than four-by-whathaveyou; told him it's less confusing for the reader and refers to the total length of the race.
 
SCEditor said:
Batman said:
Personally, though, I try to avoid using "400-meter relay", "1,600-meter relay", etc. Even though it's probably the right way to do it, to me it's a little confusing. 400-meter relay sounds like each person was running 400 meters, not 100. So I prefer 4x100, 4x200, etc.

Only six people actually read the track stories, so I don't worry too much about confusing those six.

ouch...I am the beat writer for FSU track and field.

At least they were National Champs in 06.
 
SCEditor said:
I prefer 400-meter relay, 400 relay on second reference.
This sounds like the best way to go.

If your first refer is the quote, I'd either bracket the explanation or I'd include an explanation in the next sentence of the graf.

Ex: "I thought we'd do well in the four by one," said Farlingham track coach Charlie Joiner of his team's chances in the four by 100 meter race on Saturday.

Then again, track isn't exactly my specialty...
 
forever_town said:
SCEditor said:
I prefer 400-meter relay, 400 relay on second reference.
This sounds like the best way to go.

If your first refer is the quote, I'd either bracket the explanation or I'd include an explanation in the next sentence of the graf.

Ex: "I thought we'd do well in the four by one," said Farlingham track coach Charlie Joiner of his team's chances in the four by 100 meter race on Saturday.

anybody reading the story is going to know what a 4-by-1 is
 
Platyrhynchos said:
How do you write a relay when a coach says “four by one.”

Is it “four-by-one”? Is it “4 x 1”?

What's the proper way to write this? Naturally, it goes the same with a 4 x 4 and 43 x 8.

Thanks.

How long does it take to run this race? ****, that would be even more boring to watch than the 3,200 meters.
 

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