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Didn't see this anywhere else. Apparently an Orthodox Jewish school couldn't play in a state semifinal game because of religious reasons, and the league wouldn't move the game at first. But lo and below, the parents filed a federal lawsuit and poof, the game happens. The kids win.

I can see where the parents are coming from, but I'm just so sick and tired of lawsuits because somebody didn't get their way.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/03/02/jewish-basketball-team-wins-playoff-game-after-rescheduling/
 
I'm tired of it, too, Gator, but this was a matter of telling these kids they couldn't do something because of their religion.

It was a sacrifice they didn't need to have to make.
 
If the NCAA can figure out a way for BYU to avoid ever playing on a Sunday, this little fiefdom should have had no trouble adjusting the schedule for this. The fact that they didn't do it for a Jewish school until they were threatened with a lawsuit says much about the group's Christian-ness.
 
jr/shotglass said:
I'm tired of it, too, Gator, but this was a matter of telling these kids they couldn't do something because of their religion.

It was a sacrifice they didn't need to have to make.

I completely agree that the league should have thought well ahead of this, and the league is partly to blame, but part of me wonders if the kids would have been better off sticking to their guns. I guess it doesn't matter now, but it would be quite noble for the kids to say, "This is who we are, no matter what."
 
Gator said:
Didn't see this anywhere else. Apparently an Orthodox Jewish school couldn't play in a state semifinal game because of religious reasons, and the league wouldn't move the game at first. But lo and below, the parents filed a federal lawsuit and poof, the game happens. The kids win.

I can see where the parents are coming from, but I'm just so sick and tired of lawsuits because somebody didn't get their way.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/03/02/jewish-basketball-team-wins-playoff-game-after-rescheduling/

I'm sure the Jewish school is sick and tired of someone being inflexible and unreasonable.
 
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tapps was in the wrong on this and the parents were right to do what they did, especially since tapps had made similar concessions before.
 
And the Jewish school won today, over Dallas Covenant, which, according to an AP story, had no problem with the time being changed. Recall this was the same school whose girls team forfeited a RUTS 100-0 win and fired the coach as well a few years ago, IIRC.

TAPPS impresses me as being clueless, more interested in keeping the schedule than the kids they serve.
 
Catholic high schools play on Sundays all the time, but you'll never hear about Billy Bob Bodine's Bible-Beating Babtist Academy ever setting foot on the field on Sunday.
 
Starman said:
Catholic high schools play on Sundays all the time, but you'll never hear about Billy Bob Bodine's Bible-Beating Babtist Academy ever setting foot on the field on Sunday.

Yeah. It's funny how the Catholic schools will schedule games on Sunday when the public schools won't play that day.
 
Sundays don't mean day of rest for Catholics, though. When I grew up playing Catholic school basketball, Sundays were always when we played. Church, followed by the games from fifth through eighth grades. Whole day of school spirit and all.
 
LongTimeListener said:
Sundays don't mean day of rest for Catholics, though. When I grew up playing Catholic school basketball, Sundays were always when we played. Church, followed by the games from fifth through eighth grades. Whole day of school spirit and all.

Funny how flexible the Catholic church is on some things and how inflexible on others.
 
Well that is a bigger argument, I'm just saying there isn't a corollary here because there's no 24-hour stretch they consider off limits.
 
LongTimeListener said:
Well that is a bigger argument, I'm just saying there isn't a corollary here because there's no 24-hour stretch they consider off limits.

On the Seventh Day, God created bingo, basketball and beer.
 
Ace said:
LongTimeListener said:
Well that is a bigger argument, I'm just saying there isn't a corollary here because there's no 24-hour stretch they consider off limits.

On the Seventh Day, God created bingo, basketball and beer.

Did we play kickball together while our dads were drinking?
 
LongTimeListener said:
Ace said:
LongTimeListener said:
Well that is a bigger argument, I'm just saying there isn't a corollary here because there's no 24-hour stretch they consider off limits.

On the Seventh Day, God created bingo, basketball and beer.

Did we play kickball together while our dads were drinking?

Probably.
 
My biggest problem with this scenario is that when the school joined the league a year or two ago, they agreed to join knowing the fact that the schedule might not work out for them, even after it was explained to them. Other schools have forfeited the state tournament because it conflicted with their religious beliefs and individual kids have sat out because of them as well.

But now this goes against them because the boys games were schedule at night instead of earlier in the day and the parents go ape****.

You can't agree to play by the rules and then whine if they go against you.
 
Here's the thing, Della: We're talking about the Texas Association of Private and Parochial Schools, which should be a group built to consider the various constraints of its members. If rescheduling a game for religious reasons was going to be a problem, TAPPS shouldn't have let an Orthodox Jewish school join. But I can't imagine why it was a problem in the first place. The school is willing to play 86 percent of every week.

I hold little respect for the ideologies of religions and the divisiveness they create. But I don't see this as an example of abusing religion for personal gain as much as asking an organization that was created with the intent of catering to parochial schools to consider religious practices.
 
Ace said:
LongTimeListener said:
Well that is a bigger argument, I'm just saying there isn't a corollary here because there's no 24-hour stretch they consider off limits.

On the Seventh Day, God created bingo, basketball and beer.

I thought on the Seventh Day, God created the NFL?
 
Baron Scicluna said:
Ace said:
LongTimeListener said:
Well that is a bigger argument, I'm just saying there isn't a corollary here because there's no 24-hour stretch they consider off limits.

On the Seventh Day, God created bingo, basketball and beer.

I thought on the Seventh Day, God created the NFL?

No. That was Pete Rozelle.
 

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