Off of soccer, answer this....quantify Bobby Cox's managerial lifeline

[bobblehead]

Are the Braves ever going to give up on him? Hell with the playoffs this year. The question is can they avoid the cellar?

 

[Captain_Kirk]

If they're smart they won't.

And they won't.

Cox will manage the Braves until he decides otherwise.

Players universally love playing for the guy.

 

[tyler durden 71351]

Yeah, you win the division every year for what...14-15 seasons?...and then the one off year you have, you junk the guy. Makes perfect sense. You win all those division titles, you're entitled to at least three straight last place finishes.

 

[Armchair_QB]

Better question would be, is Cox ready to hang 'em up or try something different?

Like say, bring the Royals back from the dead?

 

[jagtrader]

It's about time someone called out Cox. He has only won 100+ games six times in his last 12 full season. That's unacceptable.

 

[Lugnuts]

I really don't see anything happening one way or the other until the ownership change, and nobody knows what the new corporate overlords will do.

 

[Moderator1]

Some of the bullpens they've given him in the past, it's a wonder he has won as much as he has.
This bullpen is a fatal bullpen.  Absolute death.

 

[Armchair_QB]

Some of the bullpens they've given him in the past, it's a wonder he has won as much as he has.
This bullpen is a fatal bullpen.  Absolute death.

Hell, it's a wonder he hasn't snapped and gone postal on the front office because of those bullpens by now.

 

[alleyallen]

I'm about as anti-Braves as you can be. I'd love nothing more than to see the Braves lose 100 games this year. But fire Bobby Cox after 14 or 15 straight division titles? Bobblehead, man, you have GOT to quick smoking those banana peels.

 

[Driver 8]

The real question is: How much longer until Cox's stomach explodes?

The man is getting hhhhhuuuuuugggggggeee!!!! [/tinyelvis]

 

[Moderator1]

Called My Son The Braves fan the other night to whine about the Nats bullpen. He listens like a good son and then says, "AND YOU'RE WHINING TO ME? LIKE I FEEL FOR ANOTHER TEAM'S BULLPEN PROBLEMS?"

He then offered to trade every Braves' reliever for every Nats' reliever.

No thanks.

 

[dog428]

Oh, the bullpens have been ****ty, no doubt, but most of the freakin' batting lineups he's been forced to make out over the years couldn't have been a pleasurable experience. The Nos. 6 thru 8 spots have been, year after year, filled with absolute ****. He's had two decent leadoff guys in 15 years and he's never had anyone hit consistently out of the No. 2 spot.

Fire Bobby Cox ... yeah, right. With the talent he's been given, to have the success he's had, they oughta make the guy president.

 

[buckweaver]

Ain't gonna happen.

Cox manages til he retires (or keels over, god forbid. Honestly don't know which will happen first, though.)

Schuerholz stays til he retires (or goes back to KC, god forbid.)

Braves then start losing 100 a year, as payroll gets smaller due to continued corporate suckitude. CCS, not coincidentally, is the reason they can only get to the first round every year. Teddy Bear woulda opened his wallet for the boys if he was still in charge. I predict that scenario to happen around 2009. Commence long periods of losing at that point, and a long period of reminiscing for the good ol' days of 1991-2005.

And that's how it's gonna be.

 

[slappy4428]

If Tom Kelly went out on his terms with the Twins with more World Series titles, but a less successful career as a whole, aint no flippin way Cox goes out on anything but his own terms.

 

[Chi City 81]

If the fans won't fill Turner Field when the Braves are winning, how bad will it get once they suck?

 

[bobblehead]

It's about time someone called out Cox. He has only won 100+ games six times in his last 12 full season. That's unacceptable.

Problem is, how many other sports keep coaches who are perennial playoff teams but can't win the big one? And isn't that what professional sports is all about?

Wasn't Joe Torre once a Brave? Get him. Better still, give the Gerbil another shot at the big time.

 

[tyler durden 71351]

They did win a World Series with Cox managing, so it's not like he's oh-fer. And with the exception of some curious pitching decisions he made in 1991, it ain't like he got outmanaged.

 

[Armchair_QB]

If the fans won't fill Turner Field when the Braves are winning, how bad will it get once they suck?

See Stadium, Fulton County, circa 1987

 

[novelist_wannabe]

I was talking to someone the other day and made the comment that this kind of feels like 1989 or 90. Lotta young talented players, in need of the one or two veterans to push them to the top. May not be a great analogy, but it kind of feels like that.

As for Cox, with the level of success he's had -- add to his Atlanta run a pretty impressive streak in Toronto -- it would be anathema to show him the door. It's clear the man knows what he's doing, although Driver 8 is right on point. Seems like he gains five pounds every time they fall another game back in the standings.

 

[Driver 8]

I was talking to someone the other day and made the comment that this kind of feels like 1989 or 90. Lotta young talented players, in need of the one or two veterans to push them to the top. May not be a great analogy, but it kind of feels like that.

As for Cox, with the level of success he's had -- add to his Atlanta run a pretty impressive streak in Toronto -- it would be anathema to show him the door. It's clear the man knows what he's doing, although Driver 8 is right on point. Seems like he gains five pounds every time they fall another game back in the standings.

I hope Roger McDowell knows CPR.