NYT Delays Mullah Capture Story at Behest of White House

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Hate these stories. I always feel manipulated and wonder what else they have colluded on. Always seems like a double standard.

"The New York Times learned of the operation on Thursday, but delayed reporting it at the request of White House officials, who contended that making it public would end a hugely successful intelligence-gathering effort. The officials said that the group’s leaders had been unaware of Mullah Baradar’s capture and that if it became public they might cover their tracks and become more careful about communicating with each other."

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/16/world/asia/16intel.html?ref=asia
 
I'm fine with it, as long as it serves a purpose, like keeping people safe or not jeopardizing a mission of great importance. But the embargo has to have a firm, or timely, deadline. As it seems like this one did.
 
No problem for me, didn't bother me for Bush, doesn't bother me now. It's when they don't listen, and publish anyway that I'm offended.
 
Guy_Incognito said:
No problem for me, didn't bother me for Bush, doesn't bother me now. It's when they don't listen, and publish anyway that I'm offended.

Well, the problem is that the government probably has a tendency to cry wolf, and also has a different perspective when it comes to balancing information vs. information than the public or news media would. So when they try to play this card, it better be rare, and it better be serious.
 
Sounds like it was serious and it worked, this time. From all accounts, the guy is singing like a bird.
 
WaylonJennings said:
Guy_Incognito said:
No problem for me, didn't bother me for Bush, doesn't bother me now. It's when they don't listen, and publish anyway that I'm offended.

Well, the problem is that the government probably has a tendency to cry wolf, and also has a different perspective when it comes to balancing information vs. information than the public or news media would. So when they try to play this card, it better be rare, and it better be serious.

Agreed, but I'd rather err on the side of caution when in doubt.
 
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Guy_Incognito said:
WaylonJennings said:
Guy_Incognito said:
No problem for me, didn't bother me for Bush, doesn't bother me now. It's when they don't listen, and publish anyway that I'm offended.

Well, the problem is that the government probably has a tendency to cry wolf, and also has a different perspective when it comes to balancing information vs. information than the public or news media would. So when they try to play this card, it better be rare, and it better be serious.

Agreed, but I'd rather err on the side of caution when in doubt.

What would have you done in the case of the Pentagon Papers or secret prisons story from two years ago?
 
Not sure, honestly, I think I'd wait until I had evidence (enough to convince me, not beyond a reasonable doubt) that their insistence on my (temporary) silence was motivated by self interest rather than security. I'd probably lose out on a couple of scoops - maybe that's why I'm not in journalism.
 
You have to consider these things on a case-by-case basis and with a fair degree of skepticism .
 
WaylonJennings said:
Guy_Incognito said:
WaylonJennings said:
Guy_Incognito said:
No problem for me, didn't bother me for Bush, doesn't bother me now. It's when they don't listen, and publish anyway that I'm offended.

Well, the problem is that the government probably has a tendency to cry wolf, and also has a different perspective when it comes to balancing information vs. information than the public or news media would. So when they try to play this card, it better be rare, and it better be serious.

Agreed, but I'd rather err on the side of caution when in doubt.

What would have you done in the case of the Pentagon Papers or secret prisons story from two years ago?

The Pentagon Papers example might actually support what the Times did here, if they did indeed agree with the government that publishing this story would present a clear and present danger; in the PP case, the information posed no such danger.

In this case, you're taking the government's word for it that publication would be dangerous.
 
Guy_Incognito said:
Not sure, honestly, I think I'd wait until I had evidence (enough to convince me, not beyond a reasonable doubt) that their insistence on my (temporary) silence was motivated by self interest rather than security. I'd probably lose out on a couple of scoops - maybe that's why I'm not in journalism.

Cool. I don't know, either. They aren't easy questions.
 

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