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The problem for McCain is that at 3 a.m., 9 a.m., even 12 p.m., he apparently doesn't know which faction is causing what problem. Everyone is al qaeda, even if they're desperately fighting and executing those who even believe in some of the religious ideas al qaeda does.

al qaeda al qaeda al qaeda!!!! Even when they're not.
 
McCain couldn't predict chicken**** hitting the ground.

At the very least, as we might ask, he'd be semi-presidential. For all his boils, he does project the gravitas, which we have been so, so in lacking. If millions thought Bush was electable just on the basis of down-home charm, then McCain is a shoo-in.

It's over. Before it started, as is often the case.
 
Anybody think there is a double standard when it comes to campaigns, Dems are expected to "play nice" while Republicans can hit hard. That's the feeling I get reading and hearing most political coverage. I'm not saying its right or wrong, but it does seem to be a prism in which the campaigns are viewed. The result of course, is when Dems hit hard (perhaps below the belt) there is more outrage from the media. Just an opinion.
 
Here, I'll play nice as requested.

I'm enjoying the current primary season immensely.

McCain ought to hurry up and pick a veep, though.
 
outofplace said:
Zeke12 said:
She's trying to sabotage Obama's chances in the general, at this point, yes.

She isn't even trying to hide it.

I guess that's what bothers me about this, that she is willing to do something as blatant as this just to try to hurt Obama's chances not just in the primaries, but in the actual election.

Of course, she's already a habitual liar, so does she have any credibility? Nope, and yet, has she changed stripes since her time as the White House Maid of Honor? Nope. Neither has her husband.
 
Meanwhile, back put here clear of the kudzu, boy, is this Not Smart.
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/03/in_letter_a_dozen_top_clinton.php
 
I'm just not that worried about McCain.

The majority of people are against the war, think it wasn't worth the cost, and want all the troops home immediately or within the next year. So how does backing the war benefit McCain?

Plus with the economy worsening, I just don't see how his foreign policy creds put him over the top.
 
Yawn said:
outofplace said:
Zeke12 said:
She's trying to sabotage Obama's chances in the general, at this point, yes.

She isn't even trying to hide it.

I guess that's what bothers me about this, that she is willing to do something as blatant as this just to try to hurt Obama's chances not just in the primaries, but in the actual election.

Of course, she's already a habitual liar, so does she have any credibility? Nope, and yet, has she changed stripes since her time as the White House Maid of Honor? Nope. Neither has her husband.

You do realize she is actually helping your side now, right? And she is willing to sit down with people who despise her, people who have publicly attacked her family to do it.

I don't care what party she is in. I'm not surprised, but I am disappointed when any candidate for the presidency sinks that low.
 
Her party cred swirls further down the toilet by the minute when she breaks bread with the cancers in question.
 
Ben_Hecht said:
Her party cred swirls further down the toilet by the minute when she breaks bread with the cancers in question.
And I'm not sure she's not damaging herself for her next Senate run as well.
 
markvid said:
Ben_Hecht said:
Her party cred swirls further down the toilet by the minute when she breaks bread with the cancers in question.
And I'm not sure she's not damaging herself for her next Senate run as well.


RETURNING to the Senate is going to be embarassing enough, which is why she should snap up to VP slot if BO gets his arm twisted into actually having to offer it to the harpy.
 
markvid said:
Ben_Hecht said:
Her party cred swirls further down the toilet by the minute when she breaks bread with the cancers in question.
And I'm not sure she's not damaging herself for her next Senate run as well.
Which would be in 2012. She may not run for the Senate again.

If Obama wins the nomination but loses to McCain — horrifying as it is, those odds are a lot higher than they were a month ago — Hillary is in the catbird seat in the 2012 race.
 
Football_Bat said:
markvid said:
Ben_Hecht said:
Her party cred swirls further down the toilet by the minute when she breaks bread with the cancers in question.
And I'm not sure she's not damaging herself for her next Senate run as well.
Which would be in 2012. She may not run for the Senate again.

If Obama wins the nomination but loses to McCain — horrifying as it is, those odds are a lot higher than they were a month ago — Hillary is in the catbird seat in the 2012 race.

Not a chance. If Obama gets beat by McCain she will be viewed, and rightfully so, as the primary reason for his downfall.
 
**** Scaife sitting with Hillary Clinton had me rolling on the floor laughing hysterically. The Post-Gazette, on the website, with a photo of Hillary "taken outside the offices of the Tribune Review" also cracked me up. I guess he figured that Obama would get the support of the PG. I have heard through the grapevine that **** Scaife has spent years and millions digging up stuff on Hillary should she get the nomination so for them to be in the same room is laughable.

Also, I heard something somewhere that Condi Rice is in the running as McCain's VP.

Discuss.
 
Armchair_QB said:
Football_Bat said:
markvid said:
Ben_Hecht said:
Her party cred swirls further down the toilet by the minute when she breaks bread with the cancers in question.
And I'm not sure she's not damaging herself for her next Senate run as well.
Which would be in 2012. She may not run for the Senate again.

If Obama wins the nomination but loses to McCain — horrifying as it is, those odds are a lot higher than they were a month ago — Hillary is in the catbird seat in the 2012 race.

Not a chance. If Obama gets beat by McCain she will be viewed, and rightfully so, as the primary reason for his downfall.
Why?
 
Football_Bat said:
Armchair_QB said:
Football_Bat said:
markvid said:
Ben_Hecht said:
Her party cred swirls further down the toilet by the minute when she breaks bread with the cancers in question.
And I'm not sure she's not damaging herself for her next Senate run as well.
Which would be in 2012. She may not run for the Senate again.

If Obama wins the nomination but loses to McCain — horrifying as it is, those odds are a lot higher than they were a month ago — Hillary is in the catbird seat in the 2012 race.

Not a chance. If Obama gets beat by McCain she will be viewed, and rightfully so, as the primary reason for his downfall.
Why?

Because she will have given the GOP all the material they need to take Obama down.
 
markvid said:
Ben_Hecht said:
Her party cred swirls further down the toilet by the minute when she breaks bread with the cancers in question.
And I'm not sure she's not damaging herself for her next Senate run as well.

I am very sure she's not.
There's nobody.
The primary field got cleared out with the demis of Client 9.
And as for the R's? Please.
 
Armchair_QB said:
Football_Bat said:
Armchair_QB said:
Football_Bat said:
markvid said:
Ben_Hecht said:
Her party cred swirls further down the toilet by the minute when she breaks bread with the cancers in question.
And I'm not sure she's not damaging herself for her next Senate run as well.
Which would be in 2012. She may not run for the Senate again.

If Obama wins the nomination but loses to McCain — horrifying as it is, those odds are a lot higher than they were a month ago — Hillary is in the catbird seat in the 2012 race.

Not a chance. If Obama gets beat by McCain she will be viewed, and rightfully so, as the primary reason for his downfall.
Why?

Because she will have given the GOP all the material they need to take Obama down.
Didn't work so good for her, did it?
 

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