Myers Strikes Back at Drama Queen Tiki

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Very nice job by Gary Myers putting TV Barber's phoniness into proper relief. The two most telling points of the column are: (1) Tiki not owning up to calling Myers an idiot to his face and (2) Tiki's childish, lengthy rant at Myers in the locker room after Myers tried to politely apologize.

Tiki's "Golden Boy" image takes a deserved hit. Kudos to Myers for writing this column. If Tiki can turn on co - worker / mentor Myers, who won't he turn on? Guy's a fraud, and his mind's already on his next gig instead of the here - and - now. You reap what you sow, Tiki. Or what you "allow" to be overheard. Weak.
 
Man, I wonder how good Tiki would be playing if his mind wasn't on his next gig. 27-114 last week against the Cowboys. You're right. Weak.
 
Probably the greatest harm done by vast wealth is the harm that we of moderate means do ourselves when we let the vices of envy and hatred enter deep into our own natures.
 
RokSki said:
(1) Tiki not owning up to calling Myers an idiot to his face and (2) Tiki's childish, lengthy rant at Myers in the locker room after Myers tried to politely apologize.
Is it just me or are these two contradictory?
"He didn't call me an idiot to my face."
"When I went to talk to him, he ranted about me to my face."
 
RokSki said:
The two most telling points of the column are: (1) Tiki not owning up to calling Myers an idiot to his face and (2) Tiki's childish, lengthy rant at Myers in the locker room after Myers tried to politely apologize.

1. Is he only allowed to rip people who are there? If so, just when would Tom Jackson and Michael Irvin huddle around his locker for postgame quotes to allow Tiki the "proper" way to vent?

2. As Pastor pointed out, if Myers felt slighted because Tiki didn't call him an idiot to his face, Tiki sure didn't miss the first chance he got after that to do so. New York media loves to dish it, but can take it? Guess not.
 
Pastor said:
RokSki said:
(1) Tiki not owning up to calling Myers an idiot to his face and (2) Tiki's childish, lengthy rant at Myers in the locker room after Myers tried to politely apologize.
Is it just me or are these two contradictory?
"He didn't call me an idiot to my face."
"When I went to talk to him, he ranted about me to my face."

Myers asked him directly if he called him and idiot. Tiki said no. This might have occurred over the phone. Have to re - read the article. But Myers tried to politely apologize to Tiki in the locker room, and TV, who had already gone off on Myers, resumed going off of him, for an extended period. Pure class.

FirstDownPirates said:
Man, I wonder how good Tiki would be playing if his mind wasn't on his next gig. 27-114 last week against the Cowboys. You're right. Weak.

Ever hear of the slow leak? At first, it's no big deal. But as time goes on (playoffs roll around), all the sudden the ships half sunk. It'd be terrible if that happened to Tiki and the Gints.

Evil ******* (aka Chris_L) said:
Probably the greatest harm done by vast wealth is the harm that we of moderate means do ourselves when we let the vices of envy and hatred enter deep into our own natures.

I wouldn't dream of trading places with Tiki Barber; not a chance. I've got a vastly superior education to Barber's Virginia and a background in Silicon Valley investment banking. Investment bankers can easily make well over a million a year, and the career longevity is roughly nine times that of an NFL player. I'm not trying to brag, just clearing up any false pretenses.

One of my old partners is sitting on about $3 mil., much of which he got doing a deal for Daniel Snyder. One of those Jemele Hill situations: Right place, right time. Ask Jordan if he'd rather have his money or Mark Cuban's. One can afford an NBA team, one can't. No, TV can have his life, and I'll take mine. No envy here. Can't speak for the gap - toothed one, though. Pro athletics has plenty of perks, but it's not where the top dogs are at, unless you're talking about the owners' boxes. The Alpha's are watching in luxury suites while the Beta's are playing. Just read Rhoden's latest where he talks all about that. We writers, well, take your pick from the rest of the Greek alphabet.
 
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RokSki said:
Pastor said:
RokSki said:
(1) Tiki not owning up to calling Myers an idiot to his face and (2) Tiki's childish, lengthy rant at Myers in the locker room after Myers tried to politely apologize.
Is it just me or are these two contradictory?
"He didn't call me an idiot to my face."
"When I went to talk to him, he ranted about me to my face."

Myers asked him directly if he called him and idiot. Tiki said no. This might have occurred over the phone. Have to re - read the article. But Myers tried to politely apologize to Tiki in the locker room, and TV, who had already gone off on Myers, resumed going off of him, for an extended period. Pure class.

FirstDownPirates said:
Man, I wonder how good Tiki would be playing if his mind wasn't on his next gig. 27-114 last week against the Cowboys. You're right. Weak.

Ever hear of the slow leak? At first, it's no big deal. But as time goes on (playoffs roll around), all the sudden the ships half sunk. It'd be terrible if that happened to Tiki and the Gints.

Evil ******* (aka Chris_L) said:
Probably the greatest harm done by vast wealth is the harm that we of moderate means do ourselves when we let the vices of envy and hatred enter deep into our own natures.

I wouldn't dream of trading places with Tiki Barber; not a chance. I've got a vastly superior education to Barber's Virginia and a background in Silicon Valley investment banking. Investment bankers can easily make well over a million a year, and the career longevity is roughly nine times that of an NFL player. I'm not trying to brag, just clearing up any false pretenses.

One of my old partners is sitting on about $3 mil., much of which he got doing a deal for Daniel Snyder. One of those Jemele Hill situations: Right place, right time. Ask Jordan if he'd rather have his money or Mark Cuban's. One can afford an NBA team, one can't. No, TV can have his life, and I'll take mine. No envy here. Can't speak for the gap - toothed one, though. Pro athletics has plenty of perks, but it's not where the top dogs are at, unless you're talking about the owners' boxes. The Alpha's are watching in luxury suites while the Beta's are playing. Just read Rhoden's latest where he talks all about that. We writers, well, take your pick from the rest of the Greek alphabet.

Wow, that sure read like you were trying to brag. :)
 
Hmm, your education is better than his? Your earning power is better than his? But you're not bragging.

And the fact that you're a Cowboys fan speaks volumes about your initial post.
 
Given the "they hate Belichick" story three years ago, I'm sure the Patriots are in agreeance with Tiki regarding Tom Jackson.
If Tiki has the opportunity to walk away at the top of his game with his health intact and excellent post-football prospects, no wonder the hatas are out for him.
 
id·i·ot (d-t)
n.

A person of profound mental retardation having a mental age below three years and generally being unable to learn connected speech or guard against common dangers.
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RokSki said:
I wouldn't dream of trading places with Tiki Barber; not a chance. I've got a vastly superior education to Barber's Virginia and a background in Silicon Valley investment banking. Investment bankers can easily make well over a million a year, and the career longevity is roughly nine times that of an NFL player. I'm not trying to brag, just clearing up any false pretenses.

I'd hate to hear it if you ever DO decide to brag.
 
I wouldn't dream of trading places with Tiki Barber; not a chance. I've got a vastly superior education to Barber's Virginia and a background in Silicon Valley investment banking. Investment bankers can easily make well over a million a year, and the career longevity is roughly nine times that of an NFL player. I'm not trying to brag, just clearing up any false pretenses.

A "background" in investment banking isn't the same as an actual job in investment banking. So what do you actually do for a living and where did you go to school, since you are clearing up false pretenses and all.
 
I see nothing wrong with Tiki wanting to retire and I think even though he may have overreacted to the leak getting out about his retirement - after all, he is only human - he is right on calling anyone who claims this as a distraction to his team an idiot. Word is the team already knew and he doesn't seem to be letting up on the field. As a matter of fact from all accounts he continues to stress his goal is to go out a Super Bowl champ. How can he do that if he is "quitting" on his teammates?

Michael Irvin, Tom Jackson and Gary Myers are idiots trying to make this a bigger deal than it really is.

It's easy to see why Irvin is doing it. He obviously wants to help his boy TO get out of the spotlight for a little while. So why not try and spin this as the TO apologist that he is, that Tiki is even more selfish and a bigger distration to his team than TO could ever be. I mean if you are going to call his boy TO a distration for every little thing he does, then why does Tiki get off the hook. Hello Michael - you're comparing apples to oranges, now get a friggin clue.

Maybe if you yell a little louder than the guy next to you, everyone will think you're right - then again, maybe they'll just call you a loud-mouthed idiot.

OK I'm ranting about Michael Irvin, I know, but the guy just irritates the **** out of me and I'm sure a heck of a lot more people on this board. And for anyone to stick up for anything he says is utter nonsense.
 
RokSki said:
Pastor said:
RokSki said:
(1) Tiki not owning up to calling Myers an idiot to his face and (2) Tiki's childish, lengthy rant at Myers in the locker room after Myers tried to politely apologize.
Is it just me or are these two contradictory?
"He didn't call me an idiot to my face."
"When I went to talk to him, he ranted about me to my face."

Myers asked him directly if he called him and idiot. Tiki said no. This might have occurred over the phone. Have to re - read the article. But Myers tried to politely apologize to Tiki in the locker room, and TV, who had already gone off on Myers, resumed going off of him, for an extended period. Pure class.

FirstDownPirates said:
Man, I wonder how good Tiki would be playing if his mind wasn't on his next gig. 27-114 last week against the Cowboys. You're right. Weak.

Ever hear of the slow leak? At first, it's no big deal. But as time goes on (playoffs roll around), all the sudden the ships half sunk. It'd be terrible if that happened to Tiki and the Gints.

Evil ******* (aka Chris_L) said:
Probably the greatest harm done by vast wealth is the harm that we of moderate means do ourselves when we let the vices of envy and hatred enter deep into our own natures.

I wouldn't dream of trading places with Tiki Barber; not a chance. I've got a vastly superior education to Barber's Virginia and a background in Silicon Valley investment banking. Investment bankers can easily make well over a million a year, and the career longevity is roughly nine times that of an NFL player. I'm not trying to brag, just clearing up any false pretenses.

One of my old partners is sitting on about $3 mil., much of which he got doing a deal for Daniel Snyder. One of those Jemele Hill situations: Right place, right time. Ask Jordan if he'd rather have his money or Mark Cuban's. One can afford an NBA team, one can't. No, TV can have his life, and I'll take mine. No envy here. Can't speak for the gap - toothed one, though. Pro athletics has plenty of perks, but it's not where the top dogs are at, unless you're talking about the owners' boxes. The Alpha's are watching in luxury suites while the Beta's are playing. Just read Rhoden's latest where he talks all about that. We writers, well, take your pick from the rest of the Greek alphabet.

Wow. It's because of posts like yours that the word douchenozzle has a prominent place in the SportsJournalists.com Stylebook. See also, dicksnort and asshat.
 
sportschick said:
Don't forget ****tard, lono.

My bad! You are quite correct. I defer to SportsJournalists.com's Goddess of Quality Footwear on this one.
 
lono said:
Wow. It's posts like yours that the word douchenozzle has a prominent place in the SportsJournalists.com Stylebook. See also, dicksnort and asshat.
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Ok, it was a brag. My bad. Been a long day. I admit to being an asshat, etc. on that. Man's got to admit his mistakes. Especially if you're going to call someone else an asshat. For the record, I hope Tiki does well. I just think he's handled all this very amateurishly. In another thread, I commend Jemele Hill and Simmons for their self - marketing. I love that stuff, it's just that Tiki could use a good PR firm here. His thinking anyone would buy the "Oh, I didn't want this to get out" is ridiculous. Especially in New York.

Education: Ivy league. I did work in investment banking, as an investment banker, in Silicon Valley. Unless you think I'm a janitor who had a 'partner' who was an investment banker. Right now I'm working as a business consultant. That's it, that's all I'm going to say.

But I went into Greenberg smarminess territory, and I apologize. You guys, correctly, called me on that. I'm just sick of so many peoples' seemingly innate reflex to criticism being "You're a hater," etc. Such an easy way out of actually arguing the merits of the criticism on its face.

But I went to far, and y'all reigned me in. Thanks.

Oh, and my hoping Tiki destroys the Gints is definitely based on being a Cowboys fan. My thinking Tiki's handling of his retirement 'notice' has nothing to do with it. Same as my affinity for Irvin doesn't stop me from saying he's completely off the wall half the time.

I also get tired of the false assumption that athletes are the supposed 'apex predator' of fame and fortune; they're not, and that's what Rhoden's book is all about. It's that falsehood that keeps kids out on the court and not in the books. That does bother me.

Have a good night.
 
RokSki said:
I also get tired of the false assumption that athletes are the supposed 'apex predator' of fame and fortune; they're not, and that's what Rhoden's book is all about. It's that falsehood that keeps kids out on the court and not in the books. That does bother me.

Have a good night.

Methinks you Jaded by Tiki's Professional Accomplishments and his promising future accomplishments. Sure "some" Investment Bankers are rich - most are NOT! and they are largely UNKNOWN outside of their concentrations. Tiki will FOREVER be known - inside football and outside of it. Maybe you pissed at his versatility? He IS a highly educated man, well spoken, entrepreneurial - and nothing you can say or do can "sack" that.

Yup, it's his popularity that he's taking into his future business life that's buggin you. If more of the NFL will follow his lead - they wouldn't need their pensions
 
Sportsbruh said:
RokSki said:
I also get tired of the false assumption that athletes are the supposed 'apex predator' of fame and fortune; they're not, and that's what Rhoden's book is all about. It's that falsehood that keeps kids out on the court and not in the books. That does bother me.

Have a good night.

Methinks you Jaded by Tiki's Professional Accomplishments and his promising future accomplishments. Sure "some" Investment Bankers are rich - most are NOT! and they are largely UNKNOWN outside of their concentrations. Tiki will FOREVER be known - inside football and outside of it. Maybe you pissed at his versatility? He IS a highly educated man, well spoken, entrepreneurial - and nothing you can say or do can "sack" that.

Yup, it's his popularity that he's taking into his future business life that's buggin you. If more of the NFL will follow his lead - they wouldn't need their pensions

I'm amazed that sportsbruh responding to Rokski's idiotic post didn't somehow tear the fabric of the universe.

At the very least, we are all now dumber for having read those posts. I award sportsbruh and RokSki no points and may god have mercy on their souls.
 

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