More Sun-Sentinel cuts?

[SixToe]

Sorry if this is a d_b. Just noticed this on the guy's blog.


http://blogs.browardpalmbeach.com/pulp/2009/03/source_sun-sentinel_miami_hera.php

 

[Simon_Cowbell]

Sorry if this is a d_b. Just noticed this on the guy's blog.


http://blogs.browardpalmbeach.com/pulp/2009/03/source_sun-sentinel_miami_hera.php

That's a week old.

There is supposed to be a first prong of a staggered layoff from the S-S ... perhaps as early as tomorrow.

 

[slappy4428]

"expense reductions".... ****ing suits won't even let people die with dignity when they shoot them

 

[Tarheel316]

How come the suits aren't getting fired?

 

[RickStain]

How come the suits aren't getting fired?

Because suits make the decisions on who gets fired, and they look out for themselves.

 

[HorseWhipped]

Sun-Sentinel coulda been so great, just like Orlando was for a while.

But they never put the effort into the newsroom like they did up there in Orlando and Chicago.

I always wondered why they didn't. I guess it's better for them to sell yacht ads.

Wanna buy a boat?

 

[Joe Williams]

Sun-Sentinel coulda been so great, just like Orlando was for a while.

But they never put the effort into the newsroom like they did up there in Orlando and Chicago.

I always wondered why they didn't. I guess it's better for them to sell yacht ads.

Wanna buy a boat?

Huh?

It's been a long, long, long time since Chicago was great, regardless of whatever effort was put into that newsroom.

 

[Simon_Cowbell]

Sun-Sentinel coulda been so great, just like Orlando was for a while.

But they never put the effort into the newsroom like they did up there in Orlando and Chicago.

I always wondered why they didn't. I guess it's better for them to sell yacht ads.

Wanna buy a boat?

Bull-****ing-****.

First, Chicago has always been the second paper in The Second City when it comes to sports.

And, Orlando? They've done great. Also, though, it's nice when you only have two teams to cover, UF and the Magic. Frees up a lot of cash to hire and do fun **** with.

 

[steveu]

Did anyone see the S-S at one point? Before Trib started nicking and scraping, their sports section was kick ass at all times. It still has its days, but I really looked forward to Sundays.

 

[SF_Express]

There was a golden age of the Sun-Sentinel, under Fred Turner, when it was a terrific sports section with kick-ass space and great writers and editors and it won a lot of deserved awards (and please don't start on the value of awards business). There were some excellent people there, lot of top inside people, including three who helped make Hartford a great sports section: Jeff Otterbein, Scott Powers, Jim Kuykendall. Mark Leary. Plaschke and Wojciechowski both went through there as prep writers, although mostly earlier. Tim Rosaforte. Robbie Andreu, a great beat guy. Paul Moran, one of the top horse-racing guys in the country. Dave Joseph. Craig Barnes, the ultimate role player. Andy Cohen, who was an excellent NFL guy but left to run Dolphin Digest. Hyde came on midway into the golden period.

I'm missing about 10 names here, and I apologize to who I'm leaving out.

They're not what they used to be, but that has much to do with Tribune wrecking things as anything.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

The Chicago Tribune has been one of the biggest underachieving papers in the country for over a decade...

The Orlando Sentinel has long been one of my favorite sections, but Cowbell is 100 percent right, it's a little easier to get creative and do things a little differently when the only "local" beats are the Magic and a school that is arguably a mid-major (UCF). The Sentinel's No. 2 (Florida) and No. 3 (Bucs) beats are out of their primary coverage area.

The Sun-Sentinel has much more ground to cover.

 

[Simon_Cowbell]

There was a golden age of the Sun-Sentinel, under Fred Turner, when it was a terrific sports section with kick-ass space and great writers and editors and it won a lot of deserved awards (and please don't start on the value of awards business). There were some excellent people there, lot of top inside people, including three who helped make Hartford a great sports section: Jeff Otterbein, Scott Powers, Jim Kuykendall. Mark Leary. Plaschke and Wojciechowski both went through there as prep writers, although mostly earlier. Tim Rosaforte. Robbie Andreu, a great beat guy. Paul Moran, one of the top horse-racing guys in the country. Dave Joseph. Craig Barnes, the ultimate role player. Andy Cohen, who was an excellent NFL guy but left to run Dolphin Digest. Hyde came on midway into the golden period.

I'm missing about 10 names here, and I apologize to who I'm leaving out.

They're not what they used to be, but that has much to do with Tribune wrecking things as anything.

And, SF, someday someone will pile together the list of agate clerks Fred hired in sports who ended up up the food chain.... Mike Russo, David O'Brien, Mike Rosenwald, plus a bevy of designers and editors.

Fred is a Hall of Famer, developing the people he did in the shadow of the clearly No. 1-reputation Herald.

 

[SF_Express]

And, SF, someday someone will pile together the list of agate clerks Fred hired in sports who ended up up the food chain.... Mike Russo, David O'Brien, Mike Rosenwald, plus a bevy of designers and editors.

Fred is a Hall of Famer, developing the people he did in the shadow of the clearly No. 1-reputation Herald.

Ah, yes, very good point on people he brought in out of nowhere and who ended up being way somewhere.

Randall Mell is another one -- hired from the paper in Lake Geneva, Wis.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

Does Fred have to take the blame for Albom? ;D

 

[SF_Express]

Does Fred have to take the blame for Albom? ;D

I'd use a more neutral word, but yes, Albom's entry into daily newspapering was indeed a Turner hire.

 

[Frank_Ridgeway]

Albom was great back then. And when he went to Detroit from Fort Laud, he was replacing Mike Downey, who went to L.A. The Downey of 1985 was tremendous. So was the Albom of 1985.

 

[Simon_Cowbell]

Albom was great back then. And when he went to Detroit from Fort Laud, he was replacing Mike Downey, who went to L.A. The Downey of 1985 was tremendous. So was the Albom of 1985.

Fred hired Wojo, and Plaschke; he also lured Larry Dorman, Gordon Edes and Dave Hyde to his stepping-stone paper, even though those guys had passed that stone long ago. He also hired Huguenin, Cole, Winderman, Berardino and Marvez.

Oh, and by the way, one of his final hires, Michael Cunningham, is quietly becoming a versatile voice as a columnist. His development has been slow but steady. He'll be on TV within 5 years.

And, frankly, and this isn't a huge compliment - but it is meant as one, he has, by far, the most pointed arrow in the sports-columnist quiver down here.

And his desk hires were just as impressive.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

Albom was great back then. And when he went to Detroit from Fort Laud, he was replacing Mike Downey, who went to L.A. The Downey of 1985 was tremendous. So was the Albom of 1985.

I don't think Albom started going downhill until he fabricated, I mean wrote, Tuesdays with Morrie.

Another case of an amazing talent whose priorities are somewhere other than his column.

 

[Moderator1]

Not a cut but some S-S news (unless I have my SoFla papers wrong) - Randell Mell to The Golf Channel.

 

[SF_Express]

Not a cut but some S-S news (unless I have my SoFla papers wrong) - Randell Mell to The Golf Channel.

That's gigantic news to me. Really good friend of mine. I was one of the guys who got him hired at the S-S. And a fellow Badger to boot, albeit the rival cross-town high school.