MLB's Next Commissioner
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Starman said:
He will after he dies. Unless Pete Rose is the Highlander. Lifetime bans aren't forever.
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Selig seemed to stumble throughout his reign and never won any style points - that the game is in better shape now than it was when he took over might be more to do with Moneyball, new stadiums and expanded cable money and media landscapes than anything else.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbadenhausen/2014/08/11/how-mlb-roared-back-twenty-years-after-1994-strike/
Revenues up 400 percent since 1994, avg. player salary up 200 percent.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbadenhausen/2014/08/11/how-mlb-roared-back-twenty-years-after-1994-strike/
Revenues up 400 percent since 1994, avg. player salary up 200 percent.
Starman said:
It will be three years.
The Golden Era ballot is for 2015. The Pre-Integration ballot is for 2016. The Expansion Era ballot is for 2017.
Considering his age (he'd be approaching 83 if form holds), if they wanted to fudge and get him in on the Golden Era ballot they could say he entered baseball in the window of the ballot (up to 1972).
I could also see them doing that because there isn't a slam dunk holdover from the last Golden ballot -- Jim Kaat was five votes shy, Gil Hodges and Minnie Minoso were six and Tony Oliva was seven short.
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This guy seems like the driest piece of toast around.
This is what's in demand in the job market, members and moderators.
This is what's in demand in the job market, members and moderators.
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Kepner sniffed around that sentiment the other day. Said Manfred underwhelmed when he spoke, possibly out of deference to the final 5 months of Selig's reign, and that he could have said something exciting -- at least touted the small-market teams (Brewers, Royals, A's, etc) who happen to lead their divisions etc etc.
"I really don’t want to get too deeply today into agendas."
Really, Mr. Commissioner? How about a little deeply then?
Dry toast, indeed.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/15/sports/baseball/mlbs-new-commissioner-watches-a-chance-fly-by.html?_r=0
"I really don’t want to get too deeply today into agendas."
Really, Mr. Commissioner? How about a little deeply then?
Dry toast, indeed.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/15/sports/baseball/mlbs-new-commissioner-watches-a-chance-fly-by.html?_r=0
Big fan of Landis.
Apart from banning notable players, he set a double standard when he ordered John McGraw to sell all gambling interests, though he did not order McGraw to sever ties with disreputable high-rollers like Arnold Rothstein. This incites the debate that Landis was able to be swayed by the nature of bias. Later, when Ty Cobb, Tris Speaker, Joe Wood, and Dutch Leonard (by his accusation) were alleged to have fixed a game, Landis exonerated the trio on the grounds that they had simply conspired to bet and not maliciously corrupt the game's integrity. Their innocence, however likely, would probably not have stood with Landis had the charge been made during his first days as Commissioner in the midst of the Black Sox scandal. The event allegedly occurred in 1919, the same year of the crooked World Series. Buck Weaver did not survive the association with gambling, and it is doubtful that the implicated trio would have either.
We'll never know if he would have in fact allowed Babe Ruth to barnstorm because Ruth, always playing his own game, decided to call Landis twelve hours before he departed. An angry Landis, knowing that his title granted him the power to reside over all things baseball, set further precedent as Commissioner when he struck down on baseball games (the Ruth tour) outside of Major League Baseball. At the same time
His contradictory actions in 1921 also impacted the game when he allowed John McGraw secure Irish Muesel after denying him Heinie Groh in a trade under similar circumstances. From there on, owners realized that profitable transactions also required Landis' favor. It was only a question of finding him in a good mood.
Apart from banning notable players, he set a double standard when he ordered John McGraw to sell all gambling interests, though he did not order McGraw to sever ties with disreputable high-rollers like Arnold Rothstein. This incites the debate that Landis was able to be swayed by the nature of bias. Later, when Ty Cobb, Tris Speaker, Joe Wood, and Dutch Leonard (by his accusation) were alleged to have fixed a game, Landis exonerated the trio on the grounds that they had simply conspired to bet and not maliciously corrupt the game's integrity. Their innocence, however likely, would probably not have stood with Landis had the charge been made during his first days as Commissioner in the midst of the Black Sox scandal. The event allegedly occurred in 1919, the same year of the crooked World Series. Buck Weaver did not survive the association with gambling, and it is doubtful that the implicated trio would have either.
We'll never know if he would have in fact allowed Babe Ruth to barnstorm because Ruth, always playing his own game, decided to call Landis twelve hours before he departed. An angry Landis, knowing that his title granted him the power to reside over all things baseball, set further precedent as Commissioner when he struck down on baseball games (the Ruth tour) outside of Major League Baseball. At the same time
His contradictory actions in 1921 also impacted the game when he allowed John McGraw secure Irish Muesel after denying him Heinie Groh in a trade under similar circumstances. From there on, owners realized that profitable transactions also required Landis' favor. It was only a question of finding him in a good mood.
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At least Bud had some business pedigree.Starman said:
This guy is a garden-variety Ivy League lawyer.
We've seen with the president that is not indicative of leadership competency.
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Abbott, do you think the president is a joke?
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No joke. Bush the Younger was a failed tragedy, he was never a hero and never was heroic, though he did lack self awareness. He was hubris personified.3_Octave_Fart said:
Obama is an enigma, almost too self aware, but no joke. The contradiction with Obama is that he seems to lack an aggressive streak and ambition to succeed except for the fact that he was aggressive and ambitious enough to become President. Once that was accomplished, he seemed to lack the drive to act only react.
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I think the guy shoots straight and wanted to hear his opinion.
Thank you, Abbott.
Back to the bustling conversation about the new commissioner.
Thank you, Abbott.
Back to the bustling conversation about the new commissioner.
