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Dick Whitman

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Are all four major ones already decided?

AL MVP: Adrian Gonzalez
AL Cy: Justin Verlander
NL MVP: Ryan Braun
NL Cy: Roy Halladay

With Cy No. 3, Halladay punches his Cooperstown ticket even if he never throws another inning after this season, correct?
 
There is way too many games left on the schedule to call it yet. I wouldn't even put Ryan Braun as MVP of his own team. NL MVP has to be shaping up as Prince Fielder's race to loose. As far as AL CY I think if Verlander begins to falter CC can still make a solid case for it.
 
GarrettWampler said:
There is way too many games left on the schedule to call it yet. I wouldn't even put Ryan Braun as MVP of his own team. NL MVP has to be shaping up as Prince Fielder's race to loose. As far as AL CY I think if Verlander begins to falter CC can still make a solid case for it.

Jered Weaver might have something to say about that, too.
 
amraeder said:
GarrettWampler said:
There is way too many games left on the schedule to call it yet. I wouldn't even put Ryan Braun as MVP of his own team. NL MVP has to be shaping up as Prince Fielder's race to loose. As far as AL CY I think if Verlander begins to falter CC can still make a solid case for it.

Jered Weaver might have something to say about that, too.

He should, since he has been the best pitcher in the American League so far this season. A 1.78 ERA in the American League is damn impressive and more than a run better than Sabathia's.

It's not like this is Felix Hernandez from 2010 we're talking about, either. Weaver has 14 victories.

It should be a race between Weaver and Verlander, with Sabathia a solid, but relatively distant, third.
 
outofplace said:
It's not like this is Felix Hernandez from 2010 we're talking about, either. Weaver has 14 victories.

It should be a race between Weaver and Verlander, with Sabathia a solid, but relatively distant, third.

sounds right to me. i also agree that all the individual 'races' are too close to call right now and may well depend upon where teams finish (like the mvp race in the al, where the bosox and the yanks each have a couple of candidates, though if their paces continue, gonzalez will be tough to beat). be interesting to see if the breakout year ellsworth is having will take votes from gonzo.
 
shockey said:
outofplace said:
It's not like this is Felix Hernandez from 2010 we're talking about, either. Weaver has 14 victories.

It should be a race between Weaver and Verlander, with Sabathia a solid, but relatively distant, third.

sounds right to me. i also agree that all the individual 'races' are too close to call right now and may well depend upon where teams finish (like the mvp race in the al, where the bosox and the yanks each have a couple of candidates, though if their paces continue, gonzalez will be tough to beat). be interesting to see if the breakout year ellsworth is having will take votes from gonzo.

Who's Ellsworth?
I know you meant Ellsbury, no biggie, but who did you combine him with to get Ellsworth?
The bigger problem for the Sox players going after MVP is they're playing fairly meaningless games the rest of the season. If someone from Cleveland, Detroit, Texas or Anaheim gets crazy hot and carries their team to the postseason, I could see one of them winning, a la Mo Vaughn over Albert Belle.
Verlander, Weaver and Beckett are my top three in the AL
Hamels, Halladay and Kershaw in the NL.
NL MVP I have no idea.
 
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Granderson is making a case for AL MVP. I think the AL East champ decides the MVP winner: Red Sox=Gonzalez, Yankees=Granderson.
 
**** Whitman said:
Are all four major ones already decided?

AL MVP: Adrian Gonzalez
AL Cy: Justin Verlander
NL MVP: Ryan Braun
NL Cy: Roy Halladay

With Cy No. 3, Halladay punches his Cooperstown ticket even if he never throws another inning after this season, correct?

My votes:

AL MVP: Cabrera
NL MVP: Victorino
AL CY: Sabathia
NL CY: Halladay
 
AL MVP: Jeter
AL Cy Young: Jetes
NL MVP: Captain Calm Eyes
NL Cy Young: Mr. November
 
Uncle.Ruckus said:
AL MVP: Jeter
AL Cy Young: Jetes
NL MVP: Captain Calm Eyes
NL Cy Young: Mr. November


Now, i didn't pick him as MVP but there is precedent for using the MVP as a lifetime achievement award (see Stargell in '79 as an example).
 
MankyJimy said:
Uncle.Ruckus said:
AL MVP: Jeter
AL Cy Young: Jetes
NL MVP: Captain Calm Eyes
NL Cy Young: Mr. November


Now, i didn't pick him as MVP but there is precedent for using the MVP as a lifetime achievement award (see Stargell in '79 as an example).

Stargell wasn't the best player in the National League that year, but he was still damn good, the best player on the World Series champions. Jeter hasn't been the best player on his own team for a while.
 
Gonzalez has been unbelievable, but AS OF TODAY, I'd pick Granderson. With Jeter's relatively poor first half and A-Rod's injury, the Yanks might have fallen off to Tampa Bay level if Granderson had only performed as well as he did last year.
 
Johnny Chase said:
I'd go with Matt Kemp for NL MVP

Best player in the NL this season, but the Dodgers suck and that will probably cost him the award.
 
Remember when I was blasted for saying Gonzo was having a better year than Bautista a month ago? Well, he was then, and he definitely is now. Hate to say I told you so.....

But here's a pretty good piece on the AL Cy Young situation. After seeing this last night, I drew the conclusion that Verlander would be my guy now / will be at the end of the year. But it's yet another solid Passan piece....

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=jp-passan_verlander_weaver_sabathia_cy_young_081111
 
Chris17 said:
Remember when I was blasted for saying Gonzo was having a better year than Bautista a month ago? Well, he was then, and he definitely is now. Hate to say I told you so.....

You were not right when you made the argument at the all-star break. However, since the all-star break, Bautista has hit .200 with 2 home runs and 11 RBI. This probably has something to do with him falling out of the discussion.
 
Chris17 said:
Remember when I was blasted for saying Gonzo was having a better year than Bautista a month ago? Well, he was then, and he definitely is now. Hate to say I told you so.....

But here's a pretty good piece on the AL Cy Young situation. After seeing this last night, I drew the conclusion that Verlander would be my guy now / will be at the end of the year. But it's yet another solid Passan piece....

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=jp-passan_verlander_weaver_sabathia_cy_young_081111
No you weren't right a month ago and you made a fool of yourself then. The logic you used was idiotic at the time and still is now.
 
Rhody31 said:
shockey said:
outofplace said:
It's not like this is Felix Hernandez from 2010 we're talking about, either. Weaver has 14 victories.

It should be a race between Weaver and Verlander, with Sabathia a solid, but relatively distant, third.

sounds right to me. i also agree that all the individual 'races' are too close to call right now and may well depend upon where teams finish (like the mvp race in the al, where the bosox and the yanks each have a couple of candidates, though if their paces continue, gonzalez will be tough to beat). be interesting to see if the breakout year ellsworth is having will take votes from gonzo.

Who's Ellsworth?
I know you meant Ellsbury, no biggie, but who did you combine him with to get Ellsworth?
The bigger problem for the Sox players going after MVP is they're playing fairly meaningless games the rest of the season. If someone from Cleveland, Detroit, Texas or Anaheim gets crazy hot and carries their team to the postseason, I could see one of them winning, a la Mo Vaughn over Albert Belle.
Verlander, Weaver and Beckett are my top three in the AL
Hamels, Halladay and Kershaw in the NL.
NL MVP I have no idea.

fol on my senility guessing 'ellsworth'/elsbury'... i'm ellsworth was a guy i covered in my nfl days. i'll look it up....

INDEED, percy ellsworth was a decent safety for the giants in the late '90s. geez, so much useless info crammed into me brain....

ELSBURY.

reminds me of the year the rams draft leonard little. in my draft report card i referred to him as 'little leonard.' oy.
 
JC said:
Chris17 said:
Remember when I was blasted for saying Gonzo was having a better year than Bautista a month ago? Well, he was then, and he definitely is now. Hate to say I told you so.....

But here's a pretty good piece on the AL Cy Young situation. After seeing this last night, I drew the conclusion that Verlander would be my guy now / will be at the end of the year. But it's yet another solid Passan piece....

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=jp-passan_verlander_weaver_sabathia_cy_young_081111
No you weren't right a month ago and you made a fool of yourself then. The logic you used was idiotic at the time and still is now.

Exactly. What has transpired since does not change the fact that you were dead wrong a month ago.
 

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