Major bridge collapse in Baltimore

[tapintoamerica]

This is the inspiration for Trumpist angst. It’s the location.
https://x.com/princessbravato/status/1776433015994081724?s=46&t=rmSbzleRQYweDE9PFAoMpA

 

[Batman]

Any past examples you’d care to provide?
Have the Freedom Caucasians ever objected to fedruhl disaster relief in SEC states?

I have no idea if they have or haven't, and I'm not doing homework at midnight to win a message board argument. Sorry.
But if I have to give an example, the Inflation Reduction Act is a good one. The American Jobs Act is another recent one. Maybe not all of the stuff in those bills was wasteful, but I feel pretty confident in saying there was plenty of money given to projects that stretch the definition of "infrastructure." We get emails from our congressman (a Democrat, if it matters) all the time touting a few hundred thousand dollars here or a million there that came from one of those bills and is going to something that sure as hell is not a road, bridge, or any physical infrastructure project.

 

[DanOregon]

It's not like the feds will have to cover all of it - insurance should cover a big chunk right? Does the government insure it infrastructure? I mean, it should right?

 

[Brooklyn Bridge]

It's not like the feds will have to cover all of it - insurance should cover a big chunk right? Does the government insure it infrastructure? I mean, it should right?

Have you dealt with insurance? Payouts could take years. The cleanup and construction has to begin today. The government will have to foot the bill and then can go after insurance.

 

[Justin_Rice]

I have no idea if they have or haven't, and I'm not doing homework at midnight to win a message board argument. Sorry.
But if I have to give an example, the Inflation Reduction Act is a good one. The American Jobs Act is another recent one. Maybe not all of the stuff in those bills was wasteful, but I feel pretty confident in saying there was plenty of money given to projects that stretch the definition of "infrastructure." We get emails from our congressman (a Democrat, if it matters) all the time touting a few hundred thousand dollars here or a million there that came from one of those bills and is going to something that sure as hell is not a road, bridge, or any physical infrastructure project.

I feel like there’s a specific GOP phrase when someone mentions government and your feelings.

It’s something like ….

_______ your feelings.

 

[goalmouth]

Litigation could run "north of a billion dollars," most of it on reinsurers.

Marine Insurance Expert John Miklus ’82 on Likely Baltimore Bridge Collapse Costs | Bowdoin College

 

[Regan MacNeil]

Imagine the party of tax cuts for billionaires talking about austerity. It'd be hilarious if it wasn't so ragingly hypocritical.

 

[Starman]

Yeah, and as I said the morning after the collapse, Biden and the Dems need to jump on this with both feet and flog them relentlessly until November.

"We see things that need to be done, and we say, let's do them. They sit there and **** and whimper about why they want to stop us."

 

[Slacker]

The bridge will cost, let's say, $1 billion to rebuild. Do you really think it will be part of a standalone bill?
How much you want to bet it's a small part of another massive "infrastructure" bill that includes hundreds of items that are not the Key Bridge, or any bridge for that matter?
I think (or like to think) that's at least part of what he's talking about.

Yeah, and your pork-addicted Repugs will be right out front there, working hard for home funds to make their own bridges forever safe from those little trans queers and the pregnant mother of three who now must risk death because the Rich White BullyMen say her fourth child, who has no chance of survival, nevertheless has a God-given right to be stillborn for 5 minutes.

LOL, I might have reached nirvana on this one. ... cc: YankeeFan, STAT!!!

 

[Michael_ Gee]

Since time was, since the first ******* Congress, the way money got spent on things, necessary or otherwise, was to spend money on other things a bunch of Reps and Senators also wanted done. To object to that is to object to night following day.

 

[HanSenSE]

This is the inspiration for Trumpist angst. It’s the location.
https://x.com/princessbravato/status/1776433015994081724?s=46&t=rmSbzleRQYweDE9PFAoMpA

He's the new Pat Robertson

 

[tapintoamerica]

Gonna be a big moment. Let's all make sure to inspect the legislation. Every line.
Come September or October, when a hurricane, intensified by climate change that the Trumpist klan has ignored for decades, strikes SEC states, there will be no such scrutiny from that klan. They'll push through non-germane stuff and Democrats will not object. Nor should they.
But Tebow forbid there should be fedruhl legislation helping a 60% Black city. Nope. We can't have that.

 

[Slacker]

Since time was, since the first ******* Congress, the way money got spent on things, necessary or otherwise, was to spend money on other things a bunch of Reps and Senators also wanted done. To object to that is to object to night following day.

What bull****.

To object to "that," and to fight for justified progress
and the advancements of a proper, forward-thinking society,
is what America has always hoped to be about. To rise up
and stand strong against corruption kinda used to be our thing, ya know.

We seem to be blowing it all apart now.
And all because those pork barrel deals still go on?
Screw that crap. To not object to that is to give up and die inside.

 

[Michael_ Gee]

One man's pork is another man's vital bridge repair. The two bridges connecting Cape Cod to the mainland were built in the Depression and have maybe 10 years of shelf life left. To me, that's a vital issue. To a Senator from Nebraska, maybe not so much. But if there's something Nebraska needs, then by all means put the two things in one bill for votes. Nothing sinister about it.

 

[HanSenSE]

Let me guess: They wonder why we are fixing this bridge when all the money should be spent on the border?

Same ones who take credit for bringing infrastructure project to their districts after voting against the bill.

 

[Neutral Corner]

So the FBI and other federal investigators went aboard the ship today to do some investigating. We'll see where that goes.

 

[2muchcoffeeman]

What if I told you that dead ships are more common than you think?

The Post analysis found that 424 cargo ships longer than 600 feet reported losing propulsion — meaning the engines were shut down — in U.S. waters over the past three years. About a quarter of the incidents occurred near a port, bridge or other infrastructure, the analysis found.​

The records on propulsion loss were up to date through March 17, before the incidents involving the Dali and the Qingdao. After reports of the Qingdao incident surfaced on social media, the Coast Guard said the ship suffered a loss of propulsion.​

In some cases reviewed by The Post, engines suddenly cut out. In others, crews were compelled to shut them down to deal with operating problems. The owner and operator of the APL Qingdao said that its engine was shut down in a “controlled” manner after an engine alarm was triggered and that the ship did not lose electrical power.​

‘We’re a dead ship’: Hundreds of cargo ships lost propulsion in U.S. waters in recent years — The Washington Post

 

[goalmouth]

Like the newspaper, the byzantine structure of shipping makes its overwhelming success rate a daily miracle.

 

[Batman]

What if I told you that dead ships are more common than you think?

The Post analysis found that 424 cargo ships longer than 600 feet reported losing propulsion — meaning the engines were shut down — in U.S. waters over the past three years. About a quarter of the incidents occurred near a port, bridge or other infrastructure, the analysis found.​

The records on propulsion loss were up to date through March 17, before the incidents involving the Dali and the Qingdao. After reports of the Qingdao incident surfaced on social media, the Coast Guard said the ship suffered a loss of propulsion.​

In some cases reviewed by The Post, engines suddenly cut out. In others, crews were compelled to shut them down to deal with operating problems. The owner and operator of the APL Qingdao said that its engine was shut down in a “controlled” manner after an engine alarm was triggered and that the ship did not lose electrical power.​

‘We’re a dead ship’: Hundreds of cargo ships lost propulsion in U.S. waters in recent years — The Washington Post

Hard to believe this was almost 30 years ago, but when they said the Dali lost power the Bright Field incident was the first thing I thought of.
Just before Christmas in 1996, a 730-foot freighter lost power while traveling under the Mississippi River bridge in New Orleans. It crashed into a crowded shopping mall and between a cruise ship and a riverboat casino that were both full. Amazingly, no one was killed because of a last-second shift that effectively "parallel parked" it between the two ships. The mall security did a good job clearing people out of the area as well.

https://www.wwltv.com/article/news/...-prevented-tragedy-says-captain/289-370260696

 

[Shropshire Slasher]

Hard to believe this was almost 30 years ago, but when they said the Dali lost power the Bright Field incident was the first thing I thought of.
Just before Christmas in 1996, a 730-foot freighter lost power while traveling under the Mississippi River bridge in New Orleans. It crashed into a crowded shopping mall and between a cruise ship and a riverboat casino that were both full. Amazingly, no one was killed because of a last-second shift that effectively "parallel parked" it between the two ships. The mall security did a good job clearing people out of the area as well.

https://www.wwltv.com/article/news/...-prevented-tragedy-says-captain/289-370260696

Capt. Ted Davisson should have been Capt. Sully before Capt. Sully happened. On the other hand, I don't think anyone was injured at all in the Miracle on the Hudson.