Lovie's out! NFL Black Monday thread (UPDATE: up to seven with Whisenhunt)

[LongTimeListener]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000119943/article/lovie-smith-fired-by-chicago-bears

This is way too big to sit un-headlined on the old coaching carousel thread.

It's a new day, a new year, for YGBFKM.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

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Wow.

How long until someone claims racism?

 

[Uncle.Ruckus]

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I started this thread an hour ago. Mile High deleted it. Something tells me he'll let this one stay. ::)

 

[Mizzougrad96]

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I kind of like the move, I'm surprised because it's not a move you would expect the Bears to make.

They need to make a huge hire. I have a feeling they may go after Reid.

 

[LongTimeListener]

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Jon Gruden once had a connecting flight through O'Hare so there is a hometown link.

 

[Chef2]

Re: Lovie's out! NFL Black Monday thread

Wow.

How long until someone claims racism?

Not very long.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

Re: Lovie's out! NFL Black Monday thread

Jon Gruden once had a connecting flight through O'Hare so there is a hometown link.

They need to hire a coach who Cutler will respect. I think the two top jobs out there are this one and Philly, but this one might have the best potential to win quickly and that might be enough to attract someone like Gruden or Reid. They need to hire someone who can work with Cutler. Lovie wasn't that guy and when you do things like hire Mike Tice as the OC, you probably deserve to be fired.

 

[Beaker]

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5 confirmed so far? Smith, Reid, Gailey, Shurmur, Crennel... Confirmation on Turner has to be forthcoming...

 

[imjustagirl]

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Browns presser at 11:30 streaming live at ClevelandBrowns.com if anyone cares. :D

 

[DanOregon]

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You are always on the proverbial "hot seat" when you don't make the playoffs and the current GM isn't the one who hired you. The odd thing is the Bears don't have an obvious bad loss, every team they lost to is a playoff team. Of course, if you win at Minnesota or don't lose to Seattle at home, the Bears are in the playoffs and one of them is staying home.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

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What I think is funny about this is that if the Vikings don't beat the Packers yesterday, he probably keeps his job.

 

[Boom_70]

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Can't imagine that Gruden won't be back on the sidelines next year with all those openings.

Likely that Chip Kelly will be joining the NFL ranks for coaches for next season.

Any chance that Nick Saban decides it's the right time to leave Alabama?

 

[Dick Whitman]

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I'm not crazy about this firing, though I understand it, as well. Nine years to get the offense on track, and he could never do it. Of course, he was lining up the Little Sisters of the Poor as an offensive line each week. Ten wins in the NFL is nothing to sneeze at, and without an Adrian Peterson late-game run yesterday to clinch things, I think the Bears would have been a dangerous playoff team with Brian Urlacher back. Oh, well. The Smith decision was a close call that could have gone either way. Essentially, the GM isn't the guy who hired him, and that gets you very little leeway.

 

[Dick Whitman]

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What I think is funny about this is that if the Vikings don't beat the Packers yesterday, he probably keeps his job.

I know. I think that's strange, too.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

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You are always on the proverbial "hot seat" when you don't make the playoffs and the current GM isn't the one who hired you. The odd thing is the Bears don't have an obvious bad loss, every team they lost to is a playoff team. Of course, if you win at Minnesota or don't lose to Seattle at home, the Bears are in the playoffs and one of them is staying home.

Agreed, but I think they were quickly realizing that the team isn't going to get better with Lovie. This is a move that could be seen a similar to what they Bucs were doing when they dumped Dungy. Granted, the Bears might not be as far along as that Bucs team was, but I think this was a move done because they have a specific target in mind... Then again, they could fail to get that guy and wind up with some young coach who will be a disaster...

 

[Uncle.Ruckus]

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You are always on the proverbial "hot seat" when you don't make the playoffs and the current GM isn't the one who hired you. The odd thing is the Bears don't have an obvious bad loss, every team they lost to is a playoff team. Of course, if you win at Minnesota or don't lose to Seattle at home, the Bears are in the playoffs and one of them is staying home.

Agreed, but I think they were quickly realizing that the team isn't going to get better with Lovie. This is a move that could be seen a similar to what they Bucs were doing when they dumped Dungy. Granted, the Bears might not be as far along as that Bucs team was, but I think this was a move done because they have a specific target in mind... Then again, they could fail to get that guy and wind up with some young coach who will be a disaster...

Glazer said they've asked for permission to interview Denver's OC.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

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McCoy is probably the hot assistant out there this year and probably deservedly so...

 

[Boom_70]

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McCoy is probably the hot assistant out there this year and probably deservedly so...

He's so good he was even able to make Tebow look like an NFL QB.

 

[joe king]

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Jon Gruden once had a connecting flight through O'Hare so there is a hometown link.

They need to hire a coach who Cutler will respect. I think the two top jobs out there are this one and Philly, but this one might have the best potential to win quickly and that might be enough to attract someone like Gruden or Reid. They need to hire someone who can work with Cutler. Lovie wasn't that guy and when you do things like hire Mike Tice as the OC, you probably deserve to be fired.

Potential to win quickly? Whoever comes in had better damn well win quickly -- as in immediately. This team was already winning, just not quite at a championship level. If the new guy takes a step back next season, the torches and pitchforks will be out in a hurry.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

Re: Lovie's out! NFL Black Monday thread

Jon Gruden once had a connecting flight through O'Hare so there is a hometown link.

They need to hire a coach who Cutler will respect. I think the two top jobs out there are this one and Philly, but this one might have the best potential to win quickly and that might be enough to attract someone like Gruden or Reid. They need to hire someone who can work with Cutler. Lovie wasn't that guy and when you do things like hire Mike Tice as the OC, you probably deserve to be fired.

Potential to win quickly? Whoever comes in had better damn well win quickly -- as in immediately. This team was already winning, just not quite at a championship level. If the new guy takes a step back next season, the torches and pitchforks will be out in a hurry.

I'm not sure I would go that far. But it would be a lot of pressure on someone who hasn't been a HC before. This job is better suited for someone who can come in and win now. There's no building that has to take place... You bring in a coach with a good offensive record and you use every pick in the draft and free agent money on offensive linemen.