Jumping backward

[lmcmillan33]

I am the sports editor of a small daily newspaper. During the week, our papers typically are 8- or 10-page one-section editions. It used to be more and it used to be that we almost always were two sections but we almost never get two separate sections anymore. We simply do not get advertisers to purchase color advertisements often enough to justify two sections. So we have color on the front and on the back page.

I am often given the back page because I have photos to run nearly every day, whereas for news, there often are only enough photos for front page use. Many days, I'm also given an inside page (usually 5). In an eight-page setup, comics/TV listings are on page 7 and classifieds are usually 6. Sometimes the back is the open page and sometimes 5 is the open page, depending on if we have any color ads at all.

At first, I avoided jumping from 8 to the inside. I tried to make all stories fit entirely on page 8 and place a note that more sports is available on page 5. After a while, though, it got to the point where that just couldn't happen so I reluctantly began to jump stories from 8 to 5. No one seemed to be bothered by this. I think most people are just happy to see color photos and don't really care where stories start and finish, but we finally received a complaint.

I know it is obvious that stories shouldn't be jumped backward, but given the situation, is it better to do it anyway in order to take advantage of the color print we have available to us?

 

[Stitch]

I've seen plenty of papers that jump backward. I've seen some papers put the business section on the back and jump inside.

 

[lmcmillan33]

I've seen plenty of papers that jump backward. I've seen some papers put the business section on the back and jump inside.

I haven't seen any other papers around here do it but I figured it might be a more common thing now because of the reasons I stated. I just wanted to see what others thought.

 

[2muchcoffeeman]

It's not backward. It's your jump page. No big deal.

 

[golfnut8924]

If the back page is the front of your sports section, it's almost like it's jumping forward because when many people pick up a paper (especially one that small), they look at the front and then flip it over to see the back before opening it up. Plus, if you're readers are accustomed to the back page being the sports cover, they'll know to flip it over and see that page first when they're ready to read sports.

It'd be different if the sports cover was an inside page and then you jumped backward to another inside page. But I don't think going from a back cover to an inside is all that bad.

 

[Den1983]

Never seen papers do this, but, yes, definitely take advantage of the color print. I think readers would want color more so than worrying about flipping backward.

 

[Joshua Armstrong]

My college tabloid used to do this. Never got any complaints. Nor had any as a reader. If you've made the back page your sports "front" already, then jumping inside shouldn't confuse your readers.

 

[Hank_Scorpio]

It's a lot better than jumping from one section to another like a decent-sized weekly does around here.

They usually have about a 4 or 6 page A section, then about 16-20 pages in the next section.

It's completely annoying to read a story, then to continue reading, put down that section and open another one.

I'm not sure why they do it, but my guess it has something to do with the ad on the front. They have a full-page ad on the last page with a flap (for lack of a better word) that folds over onto the front page.
They also print whatever the flap covers up on A-1 on the front.

Not sure if I explained that well or not.

 

[Gator]

Not sure how long you've been doing it that way, but if that's your first complain, that's a good thing. If you start to question it and change it, I just have a feeling that you'll get many more calls asking to change it back. As my MO goes here, "Can't please everybody all the time."

That's why they pay me the big bucks.

 

[sgreenwell]

My college tabloid used to do this. Never got any complaints. Nor had any as a reader. If you've made the back page your sports "front" already, then jumping inside shouldn't confuse your readers.

This is also how my college newspaper, which was a tabloid, did it. We never got any complaints about this aspect of it. I think it makes the paper seem like a two-in-one: I would start from the front, read the first half, and then start with the back and read in.

 

[lmcmillan33]

It's something we've been doing on and off since September pretty much. This is the first complaint. Sports doesn't always begin on the back page because we do occassionally get color advertising that takes up the back. But my feeling was that it only makes sense to use the color when it's available.

 

[anotherjrcsurvivor]

I thought "jumping backward" was going to be a post in response to the suddenly ever-present phrase "moving forward."

 

[Hank_Scorpio]

It's something we've been doing on and off since September pretty much. This is the first complaint. Sports doesn't always begin on the back page because we do occassionally get color advertising that takes up the back. But my feeling was that it only makes sense to use the color when it's available.

So you're not always on the back page?

Seems like that might be a bit more confusing to the readers. If it was on the back page every day, readers know to turn to the back page immediately if they want sports.

 

[bmm]

Not a big deal. We do it ourselves. Usually Mondays and Tuesdays we are 10 pages and have sports on the back and have a jump to nine on Mondays. The rest of the days we are the front of the B section.

I've seen a major metro do something similar with their business section for a while.

In this age with declining tools, I'm more worried about content.

 

[apeman33]

When we first finally started doing color (2005), I seldom got color because they would only give me the back page when sports needed only one page. Their thinking was, I'd be starting on the inside and jumping back to the back page and it would waste color, in a sense, because my main art would be on the inside in black and white.

When a new ME took over, he wanted sports on the back every day, no matter what, to take advantage of the color and so that people could flip the paper over and check the back, much like what was mentioned above. That was when I looked at older papers and noticed that in the 70's, this paper used to jump sports backwards all the time.

Just to make sure there's no confusion for the readers, at the top of the first inside sports page, I put a banner that says "The 'Front' of the Sport Section is on Page (whatever the back is)."