He's the Devil I tell ya! The Devil!

[alleyallen]

UNITED NATIONS - Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez took his verbal battle with the United States to the floor of the U.N. General Assembly on Wednesday, calling President Bush "the devil." The devil came here yesterday," Chavez said, referring to Bush's address Tuesday. "He came here talking as if he were the owner of the world."

This is the story from AP and Yahoo. GWB is the Devil!

My bigger question, though, is why? Why does this administration insist on trying to determine the fate of so many other nations. I know ever presidential administration is guilty of this, but since they're not in office and the Shrub is, he's the one who has to answer for it.

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

He is way too dumb to be the devil.

 

[Armchair_QB]

My bigger question, though, is why? Why does this administration insist on trying to determine the fate of so many other nations. I know ever presidential administration is guilty of this, but since they're not in office and the Shrub is, he's the one who has to answer for it.

Probably because we're the country everybody else turns to to clean up their mess.

 

[markvid]

I cannot believe people didn't walk out of that speech.
Pat Robertson was right.

 

[D-3 Fan]

My bigger question, though, is why? Why does this administration insist on trying to determine the fate of so many other nations. I know ever presidential administration is guilty of this, but since they're not in office and the Shrub is, he's the one who has to answer for it.

Probably because we're the country everybody else turns to to clean up their mess.

Best answer of the day. And we ask ourselves why do we get involved in everything? Simple, we are the babysitters for most of these wayward (children) countries. If we don't involved, then someone, somewhere in this world of ours will do something so ****ed up that we will have to step in.

 

[pallister]

I cannot believe people didn't walk out of that speech.
Pat Robertson was right.

You hate Venezuelans, don't you? Bigot.

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

My bigger question, though, is why? Why does this administration insist on trying to determine the fate of so many other nations. I know ever presidential administration is guilty of this, but since they're not in office and the Shrub is, he's the one who has to answer for it.

Probably because we're the country everybody else turns to to clean up their mess.

True once.
Today?
If it makes you feel good to say it, fine.

 

[JackS]

He is way too dumb to be the devil.

Now that's funny.

Maybe Screwtape, though.

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

Damn, this is a literate joint sometimes.

 

[RedCanuck]

Manifest destiny.

 

[markvid]

I cannot believe people didn't walk out of that speech.
Pat Robertson was right.

You hate Venezuelans, don't you? Bigot.

Nah, just the psycho who is unfortunately representing them.

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

My bigger question, though, is why? Why does this administration insist on trying to determine the fate of so many other nations. I know ever presidential administration is guilty of this, but since they're not in office and the Shrub is, he's the one who has to answer for it.

Probably because we're the country everybody else turns to to clean up their mess.

True once.
Today?
If it makes you feel good to say it, fine.

Indeed. Now they call on . . um, they call on . . well, who do they call on? The toothless UN? Is Russia throwing money around? China? The UK? Maybe they call on no one, but once Bush and friends are gone, we'll get those phone calls again. Unfortunately, it's a role we've had for decades, a role we are forced to embrace even when we don't want to.

It amuses me where Nowhere Lands like Venezuela try to speak ill. Yes, good for you. You're very cool and tough, and the Middle Eastern nations probably laughed uproariously at your cute little diatribe. You guys can have a party where only countries that would be third world without oil are invited. Where the leaders talk about all the wonderful things they are able to do for their nation's people and infrastructure thanks to all that oil money.

Actually, a lot of places, including the USA, are going to China for help. Who owns most of our debt, run up during the excellent adventure in Iraq?
But we are the bestest biggest country in the world.
Used to be. Now we've got our military hung up in the desert and our hands out to Chinese bankers.

 

[pallister]

I was kidding, marv. Just being sracastic since the m.o. of many people on here is to play the bigot card whenever someone disagrees with them.

 

[pallister]

Sarcastic.

 

[The Big Ragu]

Actually, a lot of places, including the USA, are going to China for help. Who owns most of our debt, run up during the excellent adventure in Iraq?
But we are the bestest biggest country in the world.
Used to be. Now we've got our military hung up in the desert and our hands out to Chinese bankers.

This is a wee bit simplistic, FB. Foreigners own a great deal of our debt, and an unwieldy budget deficit is ultimately a bad thing for our economy (I won't retype some of my screeching posts about this).

But you have to put it in perspective. The U.S. has run budget deficits over a great deal of its history, and our economy has still managed to stay the strongest in the world. As a percentage of GDP, we ran larger deficits during WWII than we are now, and it was actually pretty healthy for our economy then.

It's not necessarily bad that China is buying our debt. If we are going to run a deficit, it is much worse if they STOP buying our debt. Foreign ownership of so much of our debt is a relatively new phenomenon, so it is a wildcard. In the past, we didn't have to worry about people buying our debt. It didn't get any more credit worthy than U.S. Treasuries. The reason China (and Japan and many other nations) owning our debt works well, is that there is a global interdependency. We have a huge trade imbalance with China, for example. And the system works pretty well. American consumers buy Chinese exports, and they benefit from the flow of inexpensive goods from China. In return, the Chinese buy our government debt. And they benefit from the return on their investment and our continued consumption of their exports. It's a nice, neat little dependency that works pretty well, actually.

Where it gets dangerous is if our debt levels get so high, and the trade imbalance becomes so great, that the foreigners get nervous and stop buying our debt; i.e. if they decide to diversify their portfolios because we look like we might not be able to pay our bills. I think we are getting closer (but not yet dangerously close) to this happening, and I think this administration has created a fiscal mess. But I don't think we are quite there yet. As I said, you have to put it in the proper perspective.

 

[Claws for Concern]

Enough about Tie Domi! Yes, he's the Devil. I'm just glad he never played for the Devils!

 

[Ledbetter]

Actually, a lot of places, including the USA, are going to China for help. Who owns most of our debt, run up during the excellent adventure in Iraq?
But we are the bestest biggest country in the world.
Used to be. Now we've got our military hung up in the desert and our hands out to Chinese bankers.

This is a wee bit simplistic, FB. Foreigners own a great deal of our debt, and an unwieldy budget deficit is ultimately a bad thing for our economy (I won't retype some of my screeching posts about this).

But you have to put it in perspective. The U.S. has run budget deficits over a great deal of its history, and our economy has still managed to stay the strongest in the world. As a percentage of GDP, we ran larger deficits during WWII than we are now, and it was actually pretty healthy for our economy then.

It's not necessarily bad that China is buying our debt. If we are going to run a deficit, it is much worse if they STOP buying our debt. Foreign ownership of so much of our debt is a relatively new phenomenon, so it is a wildcard. In the past, we didn't have to worry about people buying our debt. It didn't get any more credit worthy than U.S. Treasuries. The reason China (and Japan and many other nations) owning our debt works well, is that there is a global interdependency. We have a huge trade imbalance with China, for example. And the system works pretty well. American consumers buy Chinese exports, and they benefit from the flow of inexpensive goods from China. In return, the Chinese buy our government debt. And they benefit from the return on their investment and our continued consumption of their exports. It's a nice, neat little dependency that works pretty well, actually.

Where it gets dangerous is if our debt levels get so high, and the trade imbalance becomes so great, that the foreigners get nervous and stop buying our debt; i.e. if they decide to diversify their portfolios because we look like we might not be able to pay our bills. I think we are getting closer (but not yet dangerously close) to this happening, and I think this administration has created a fiscal mess. But I don't think we are quite there yet. As I said, you have to put it in the proper perspective.

Thanks for explaining that. I can't say I didn't learn something today.

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

Still not exactly the rock we once were, and, for whatever the reason, we need the Chinese -- and the goods that they produce through their slave labor -- to keep us afloat. That they seem willing to do so does not comfort me.
And if Hugo Chavez were American, he could be a general in the army!
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/10/16/terror/main578471.shtml

 

[poindexter]

Still not exactly the rock we once were, and, for whatever the reason, we need the Chinese -- and the goods that they produce through their slave labor -- to keep us afloat. That they seem willing to do so does not comfort me.
And if Hugo Chavez were American, he could be a general in the army!
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/10/16/terror/main578471.shtml

Gotta love that religion stuff. It's done so well for the world throughout the centuries.

[/slaps head]

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

Can't argue there.
Maybe Darryl Strawberry can come and clean things up.