mocheeks10
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http://www.nypost.com/seven/08182009/business/sun_of_sam_eclipse_185148.htm
Lugnuts said:So he bails. Then what?
Who's in charge?
Are the assets sold off?
Screwball said:The court also could decide the company is so (fouled) up that no reorganization would stand a reasonable chance of paying off creditors, and in that case the court could order the assets liquidated for the purpose of raising as much money as possible to pay off creditors.
In that case, the LA Times, Chicago Tribune, WGN, etc all go up for sale, individually or together, whatever raises the most $$$.
Lugnuts said:Screwball said:The court also could decide the company is so (fouled) up that no reorganization would stand a reasonable chance of paying off creditors, and in that case the court could order the assets liquidated for the purpose of raising as much money as possible to pay off creditors.
In that case, the LA Times, Chicago Tribune, WGN, etc all go up for sale, individually or together, whatever raises the most $$$.
Normally, if I were an employee at one of Trib's holdings, having the assets sold off piecemeal like that would terrify me... But I think in this case, it would be a good thing.
You'd have half a chance of getting a local owner who cares (a la Geffen - LA Times) as opposed to Zell and his merry band of psychopaths.
I think it would be wise for the bankruptcy court to go that route anyway, because Trib has the cross ownership problem in multiple cities. The newly-in-power Democrats are signaling that they aren't going to give Zell the cross-ownership waivers that Trib enjoyed under the Republicans. And that would be a mess... so why not sell off bit by bit.
I'm a creditor - gimme a deal on WGN.
Lugnuts said:Screwball said:The court also could decide the company is so (fouled) up that no reorganization would stand a reasonable chance of paying off creditors, and in that case the court could order the assets liquidated for the purpose of raising as much money as possible to pay off creditors.
In that case, the LA Times, Chicago Tribune, WGN, etc all go up for sale, individually or together, whatever raises the most $$$.
Normally, if I were an employee at one of Trib's holdings, having the assets sold off piecemeal like that would terrify me... But I think in this case, it would be a good thing.
You'd have half a chance of getting a local owner who cares (a la Geffen - LA Times) as opposed to Zell and his merry band of psychopaths.
mocheeks10 said:http://www.nypost.com/seven/08182009/business/sun_of_sam_eclipse_185148.htm
Joe Williams said:I still don't know how creditors allow themselves to be raked over the coals and stiffed for millions of dollars, yet these newspapers in Chicago and Minneapolis come out of bankruptcy and continue to produce inferior products while overpaying a lot of too-comfortable journalists. And, of course, executives. (I'm only picking on the slackers and those looking to coast to the finish line.)
Since when has it become OK to default on loans and not flip your other assets to pay them back if the business you've bought with the loan isn't supporting itself? I guess that's bankruptcy law, but why in the world would these creditors allow/enable it?
fishwrapper said:Joe Williams said:I still don't know how creditors allow themselves to be raked over the coals and stiffed for millions of dollars, yet these newspapers in Chicago and Minneapolis come out of bankruptcy and continue to produce inferior products while overpaying a lot of too-comfortable journalists. And, of course, executives. (I'm only picking on the slackers and those looking to coast to the finish line.)
Since when has it become OK to default on loans and not flip your other assets to pay them back if the business you've bought with the loan isn't supporting itself? I guess that's bankruptcy law, but why in the world would these creditors allow/enable it?
To put into perspective:
Tribune's bankruptcy involves a little more than $11 billion. Nothing to sneeze at, for sure.
Lehman Bros. bankruptcy involved just a touch over $639 billion.
The creditors will not allow it. If there isn't a plan for them to make back 85 cents on every dollar coming out of Chapter 11, they will dismantle and get what they can. It's plain and simple.
The Tribune will not be able to service 85% of the debt. So, it's just a matter of time...