Forget bad beats ...

[doubledown68]

Digging this thread out of the trash to probe the minds of those who know the game a lot better than me (and I know it's, uh, most of you):

How do you deal with seeing your cards come up after you've folded?

Like just now in an online limit tourney. I've got the SB. Most of the action folds around to the guy to my right, who raises. I'm sitting there with J-3 offsuit; no way I should call.

So I bet you know where this is going... Flop is X-3-3. Turn is a blank. River is a J.

The rest of the hands weren't stellar; I would've won rather easily.

I go back and forth; I got pissed, but then I think ****, I didn't have any business calling a pre-flop raise with that garbage anyway.

Should that be any sort of relief to me, that I played right but lost out on a pot?

The rub about no limit is that you always know what you would've had. At the same time, you're not going to win crap in the long run playing j-3 offsuit. You just have to shake it off and move on.

 

[Chef]

The donkeys will throw a fit if they throw a winner, even if it was the right play.

If I have 4-4.....flop comes out 9, K, Q......I paid to see a flop to see if I could hit my set.....if I don't hit it, and people start betting into that.....I'm getting rid of that.....so, even if running 4's come out that WOULD have given me quads....I'm not going to roll over my stack for a small pair.

Best hand I ever folded: Get 4-4.....flop comes 3-4-5. 2 calls and a raise in front.....and I muck it.....would have been for roughly $80 cash....I knew, knew, knew someone had A2, and that unless I pair the board or catch the whale, I was no good.

I mucked it....guy goes all-in and gets called by a guy with 5-3, and sure as ****..had A2.

 

[Tommy_Dreamer]

I'm learning to just laugh at throwing away garbage cards that would've been winners.

Other day, first hand Amateur league I play in, Fold J-4 off suit. Flop J-J-X . Turn blank. River J

Would've had my first quad hand ... I just laughed.

 

[Chef]

Just heard about one online.

Guy gets QQ, one other gets Kc,10c....other gets AA

flop comes Qc,9h,Ad.....set of queens, straight draw, set of aces

turn.....jc......so, still set of queens, royal flush draw.....set of aces.

river...ac.....so, queens full, ROYAL FREAKING FLUSH.....4 ACES.

How sick is that?

 

[Tommy_Dreamer]

Just heard about one online.

Guy gets QQ, one other gets Kc,10c....other gets AA

flop comes Qc,9h,Ad.....set of queens, straight draw, set of aces

turn.....jc......so, still set of queens, royal flush draw.....set of aces.

river...ac.....so, queens full, ROYAL FREAKING FLUSH.....4 ACES.

How sick is that?

Hope he was on the site offering the bad beat jackpots because that would qualify I think.

 

[Birdscribe]

Just heard about one online.

Guy gets QQ, one other gets Kc,10c....other gets AA

flop comes Qc,9h,Ad.....set of queens, straight draw, set of aces

turn.....jc......so, still set of queens, royal flush draw.....set of aces.

river...ac.....so, queens full, ROYAL FREAKING FLUSH.....4 ACES.

How sick is that?

What I wouldn't give to be holding either one of those sets at a table with a bad-beat jackpot.

That's why -- if you're holding the set of Aces -- you bet the farm before the river and make the guy with the royal draw bite off a huge matzah ball to see the river.

And Hustle, don't beat yourself up over making the right play. You'll make yourself insane doing that. I can't tell you how many times I've folded garbage -- or even a marginal hand that I may have played in the BB or button -- and seen what would have been a monster.

The most recent was folding A-4offsuit in the cutoff seat (one before the button). I'm not one for playing non-suited Aces unless it's 1) late in a tournament; 2) I'm in one of the blinds, or 3) I've isolated one player, so I chucked them.

Naturally, the flop comes 4-4-4. All I could do was laugh.

 

[BertoltBrecht]

I think if you folded cards that would have made a royal, you're allowed to say something.

 

[Birdscribe]

I think if you folded cards that would have made a royal, you're allowed to say something.

Yes... although there's a difference between folding Kc-10c and having a straight, flush and royal draw and folding J-3 or A-4 off.

 

[BertoltBrecht]

Just heard about one online.

Guy gets QQ, one other gets Kc,10c....other gets AA

flop comes Qc,9h,Ad.....set of queens, straight draw, set of aces

turn.....jc......so, still set of queens, royal flush draw.....set of aces.

river...ac.....so, queens full, ROYAL FREAKING FLUSH.....4 ACES.

How sick is that?

What I wouldn't give to be holding either one of those sets at a table with a bad-beat jackpot.

That's why -- if you're holding the set of Aces -- you bet the farm before the river and make the guy with the royal draw bite off a huge matzah ball to see the river.

And Hustle, don't beat yourself up over making the right play. You'll make yourself insane doing that. I can't tell you how many times I've folded garbage -- or even a marginal hand that I may have played in the BB or button -- and seen what would have been a monster.

The most recent was folding A-4offsuit in the cutoff seat (one before the button). I'm not one for playing non-suited Aces unless it's 1) late in a tournament; 2) I'm in one of the blinds, or 3) I've isolated one player, so I chucked them.

Naturally, the flop comes 4-4-4. All I could do was laugh.

I'm hoping AAA and QQQ bet the flop, because if K10 saw the turn, no amount of money would push him away from the pot.

 

[Chef]

Just heard about one online.

Guy gets QQ, one other gets Kc,10c....other gets AA

flop comes Qc,9h,Ad.....set of queens, straight draw, set of aces

turn.....jc......so, still set of queens, royal flush draw.....set of aces.

river...ac.....so, queens full, ROYAL FREAKING FLUSH.....4 ACES.

How sick is that?

What I wouldn't give to be holding either one of those sets at a table with a bad-beat jackpot.

That's why -- if you're holding the set of Aces -- you bet the farm before the river and make the guy with the royal draw bite off a huge matzah ball to see the river.

And Hustle, don't beat yourself up over making the right play. You'll make yourself insane doing that. I can't tell you how many times I've folded garbage -- or even a marginal hand that I may have played in the BB or button -- and seen what would have been a monster.

The most recent was folding A-4offsuit in the cutoff seat (one before the button). I'm not one for playing non-suited Aces unless it's 1) late in a tournament; 2) I'm in one of the blinds, or 3) I've isolated one player, so I chucked them.

Naturally, the flop comes 4-4-4. All I could do was laugh.

I'm hoping AAA and QQQ bet the flop, because if K10 saw the turn, no amount of money would push him away from the pot.

Hell no. The guy with K-10 is going nowhere even after the flop, so long as no one pushes all-in after the flop.

If he puts one of the two on the set (doubt he puts both on a set, but even so) he's got double guts, and if he hits, he's probably good. After the turn....****, guy with K-10 has half the deck.

 

[Webster]

I couple of years back, I came into some unexpected cash (a bunch of us invested a couple of grand each in a restaurant and it was bought out by the majority owner for double the purchase price) and decided after a celebration dinner to hit a poker club in Manhattan. Having a few too many drinks in me, I sat down at a 4-8 NL table with a $1,000 in front of me -- way, way more than I ever bet.

Within the first 15 minutes I folded to a couple of reraises and then saw 10-10 in front of me one off the button. Folded to me. I raise and get 1 caller from the SB. Flop came A-10-10. Score. SB bets the pot and I call. Turn is a 5, no flush draw. He checks and I check. It's a rag. He then goes all in for my last $800. Through heavy eyes, I stare at the board for what seemed like 5 minutes (but probably was 15 seconds) and don't see how I can lose. Call. He has A-A.

 

[Chef]

I couple of years back, I came into some unexpected cash (a bunch of us invested a couple of grand each in a restaurant and it was bought out by the majority owner for double the purchase price) and decided after a celebration dinner to hit a poker club in Manhattan. Having a few too many drinks in me, I sat down at a 4-8 NL table with a $1,000 in front of me -- way, way more than I ever bet.

Within the first 15 minutes I folded to a couple of reraises and then saw 10-10 in front of me one off the button. Folded to me. I raise and get 1 caller from the SB. Flop came A-10-10. Score. SB bets the pot and I call. Turn is a 5, no flush draw. He checks and I check. It's a rag. He then goes all in for my last $800. Through heavy eyes, I stare at the board for what seemed like 5 minutes (but probably was 15 seconds) and don't see how I can lose. Call. He has A-A.

I will assume he didn't catch the 4th ace on the river?

 

[Webster]

I wrote that it was a rag -- I'm usually good a remembering big hands but all I know was that the card still left me with the best hand.

 

[BertoltBrecht]

Just heard about one online.

Guy gets QQ, one other gets Kc,10c....other gets AA

flop comes Qc,9h,Ad.....set of queens, straight draw, set of aces

turn.....jc......so, still set of queens, royal flush draw.....set of aces.

river...ac.....so, queens full, ROYAL FREAKING FLUSH.....4 ACES.

How sick is that?

What I wouldn't give to be holding either one of those sets at a table with a bad-beat jackpot.

That's why -- if you're holding the set of Aces -- you bet the farm before the river and make the guy with the royal draw bite off a huge matzah ball to see the river.

And Hustle, don't beat yourself up over making the right play. You'll make yourself insane doing that. I can't tell you how many times I've folded garbage -- or even a marginal hand that I may have played in the BB or button -- and seen what would have been a monster.

The most recent was folding A-4offsuit in the cutoff seat (one before the button). I'm not one for playing non-suited Aces unless it's 1) late in a tournament; 2) I'm in one of the blinds, or 3) I've isolated one player, so I chucked them.

Naturally, the flop comes 4-4-4. All I could do was laugh.

I'm hoping AAA and QQQ bet the flop, because if K10 saw the turn, no amount of money would push him away from the pot.

Hell no. The guy with K-10 is going nowhere even after the flop, so long as no one pushes all-in after the flop.

If he puts one of the two on the set (doubt he puts both on a set, but even so) he's got double guts, and if he hits, he's probably good. After the turn....****, guy with K-10 has half the deck.

Double guts? After the flop comes, if he puts the two on sets he needs a jack alone to win the hand. Unless AAA and QQQ slowplayed, then he's an idiot for staying in the hand.

Flop is Qc,9h,Ad

What part of that did K10 of clubs hit?

 

[Chef]

Just heard about one online.

Guy gets QQ, one other gets Kc,10c....other gets AA

flop comes Qc,9h,Ad.....set of queens, straight draw, set of aces

turn.....jc......so, still set of queens, royal flush draw.....set of aces.

river...ac.....so, queens full, ROYAL FREAKING FLUSH.....4 ACES.

How sick is that?

What I wouldn't give to be holding either one of those sets at a table with a bad-beat jackpot.

That's why -- if you're holding the set of Aces -- you bet the farm before the river and make the guy with the royal draw bite off a huge matzah ball to see the river.

And Hustle, don't beat yourself up over making the right play. You'll make yourself insane doing that. I can't tell you how many times I've folded garbage -- or even a marginal hand that I may have played in the BB or button -- and seen what would have been a monster.

The most recent was folding A-4offsuit in the cutoff seat (one before the button). I'm not one for playing non-suited Aces unless it's 1) late in a tournament; 2) I'm in one of the blinds, or 3) I've isolated one player, so I chucked them.

Naturally, the flop comes 4-4-4. All I could do was laugh.

I'm hoping AAA and QQQ bet the flop, because if K10 saw the turn, no amount of money would push him away from the pot.

Hell no. The guy with K-10 is going nowhere even after the flop, so long as no one pushes all-in after the flop.

If he puts one of the two on the set (doubt he puts both on a set, but even so) he's got double guts, and if he hits, he's probably good. After the turn....****, guy with K-10 has half the deck.

Double guts? After the flop comes, if he puts the two on sets he needs a jack alone to win the hand. Unless AAA and QQQ slowplayed, then he's an idiot for staying in the hand.

Flop is Qc,9h,Ad

What part of that did K10 of clubs hit?

My bad......He's got the Jack, and I can see either one of those other two (or even both) slow-playing it.....You know damn well both guys think their set is good......no danger of flush draw (unless you catch runner-runner like K10 did).....They don't want the other two to go anywhere.

 

[Ace]

If you are the one holding a set of Ace's -- please let go.

Thank you.

 

[Chef]

Even if you are the guy in last place, which in this case is the with queens full...****, there are three hands that beat you.....pocket aces, ace-board, or the royal flush.

No damn way is anybody getting out of that hand after the river.

 

[Buck]

Some times you have to pay out. You just have to.
If I've got those queens full, I'm paying out. I have to.
The only thing that's beating me are aces or a straight flush. I've got to pay to see that.
Too many people worry about making great laydowns. Sometimes you have to pay out in an unlucky hand.

 

[Birdscribe]

Some times you have to pay out. You just have to.
If I've got those queens full, I'm paying out. I have to.
The only thing that's beating me are aces or a straight flush. I've got to pay to see that.
Too many people worry about making great laydowns. Sometimes you have to pay out in an unlucky hand.

Best post of the thread.

 

[Chef]

Some times you have to pay out. You just have to.
If I've got those queens full, I'm paying out. I have to.
The only thing that's beating me are aces or a straight flush. I've got to pay to see that.
Too many people worry about making great laydowns. Sometimes you have to pay out in an unlucky hand.

Let's say you're in third position.....let's say Royal says all-in...aces quickly calls.....are you still calling him?