Fired Joe Morgan

[TigerVols]

The blog will need to be renamed. Thank God.

http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/11/08/espn-breaks-up-sunday-night-baseball-team/?hpw

 

[YankeeFan]

No ****ing way! I never thought I'd live to see the day.

I didn't mind Miller. I think he's got a good voice & was pretty good.

Do I now need to root for Valentine to get a managerial job so he doesn't end up on Sunday Night Baseball?

I guess BYH will be happy either way.

 

[bigpern23]

Not happy to see Miller go, I think he's awesome, but couldn't be happier not to have to listen to Morgan anymore. I'm also grateful that Rick Sutcliffe won't be getting the primary color gig.

Schulman is top-notch and will do a good job. I've heard Hershiser a few times, but haven't really formed an opinion on him one way or the other.

 

[Ben_Hecht]

No way it can be worse.

 

[bigpern23]

No way it can be worse.

Joe Buck and Tim McCarver find your lack of faith disturbing.

 

[YankeeFan]

No way it can be worse.

Joe Buck and Tim McCarver find your lack of faith disturbing.

They can be annoying, but they're not wrong as often as Morgan is.

If McCarver would talk less, his insights would be appreciated better.

 

[Flying Headbutt]

I think Hershiser is the very best that ESPN has. He's a great analyst. Good for him.

 

[CarltonBanks]

I'm a Hershiser fan as well. He does an exceptional job of explaining thought processes and pitching in general. Love the Bulldog.

 

[dooley_womack1]

Not that Morgan was a masterful analyst, but the fact that many saber bloggers will look upon this as an occasion for seeing triumph and dancing on a grave is disturbing.

 

[imjustagirl]

I'm a big Orel Hershiser fan as an announcer, and I don't watch much baseball. I've always loved Jon Miller's voice a lot. I'll miss him.

But mmmmmmmmmmmmmm Bobby V.

 

[Dick Whitman]

Not that Morgan was a masterful analyst, but the fact that many saber bloggers will look upon this as an occasion for seeing triumph and dancing on a grave is disturbing.

And why shouldn't they? He was flat-out bad at a public job. He should be relieved of that job, and no one should shed a tear. This isn't some steel worker losing his pension.

 

[YankeeFan]

Not that Morgan was a masterful analyst, but the fact that many saber bloggers will look upon this as an occasion for seeing triumph and dancing on a grave is disturbing.

And why shouldn't they? He was flat-out bad at a public job. He should be relieved of that job, and no one should shed a tear. This isn't some steel worker losing his pension.

Peter Gammons just tweeted, "I have known few people in my life who care more about the integrity of baseball than Joe Morgan."

So what? He's not a good baseball announcer. The criticism of him had been public & sustained. He has not worked to be a better baseball announcer.

He's been bad. He's stayed bad.

There is no good reason he should hold one of the most prestigious/high profile announcing jobs.

 

[dooley_womack1]

Not that Morgan was a masterful analyst, but the fact that many saber bloggers will look upon this as an occasion for seeing triumph and dancing on a grave is disturbing.

And why shouldn't they? He was flat-out bad at a public job. He should be relieved of that job, and no one should shed a tear. This isn't some steel worker losing his pension.

But no one should see it as a triumph of their philosophy and get really happy about it. Really...getting happy about someone losing their job?

 

[dooley_womack1]

More to the point: His firing is not being celebrated based on his ability. It's being celebrated based on his philosophy. He could be as good as Hershiser, but would have still had people calling for his firing.

 

[Dick Whitman]

More to the point: His firing is not being celebrated based on his ability. It's being celebrated based on his philosophy. He could be as good as Hershiser, but would have still had people calling for his firing.

As much as I hate playing the two-wrongs-make-a-right game, there were also a lot of people who were very happy when Paul DePodesta and Jeremy Brown lost their jobs.

And anyway, he could not be as good as Hershiser with his philosophy. Him being good and him holding onto his "philosophy" are incompatible ideas. It's not just that Morgan wasn't a sabermetric true believer. It's that he says things that are provably, demonstrably wrong, over and over again.

 

[Shaggy]

Yeah, I don't like publicly criticizing people, but Joe Morgan was a terrible analyst.

Every game was the same:

1. Making an extremely general point, then repeating the point four times in a row with slightly different wording before Miller could talk again.
2. Going out of his way to ignore stats, which was either an ego thing or just a lack of work ethic.
3. Telling 10 stories about the 1975 Reds
4. Correcting himself for eight of his stories from last week's broadcasts after bloggers prove that his stories are wildly inaccurate.
5. Taking time in the 8th inning to say hello to someone in his personal life, something that about 5 people out of the 5 million viewers actually give a **** about.

Joe Morgan has been mailing it in for 10 years. ESPN should've noticed it 8 years ago.

I like Rick Sutcliffe for the most part, though his extremely positive spin toward every player is a little irritating, and his "I talked to so and so before the game and he said..." needs to get cut down severely.

I think Orel Hershiser is the best color analyst at the network, with Aaron Boone climbing that ladder fast.

Sucks about Jon Miller, who I really like. But Dan Schulman is every bit as good.

 

[playthrough]

He was turning into the Larry King of baseball announcers...didn't do any homework and didn't feel he needed to. I'm sure he's a very nice man who cares for the game, blah blah, but that's just arrogant for a life behind a microphone.

 

[BYH]

Peter Gammons just tweeted, "I have known few people in my life who care more about the integrity of baseball than Joe Morgan."

The next time Gammons criticizes a member of the baseball establishment will be the first.

 

[poindexter]

Not that Morgan was a masterful analyst, but the fact that many saber bloggers will look upon this as an occasion for seeing triumph and dancing on a grave is disturbing.

People are dancing because Joe Morgan has sucked the life out of broadcasts for 20 years.

And he's an idiot.

 

[BYH]

Shulman, Hershiser and Bobby V would be outstanding. Even just Shulman and Hershiser would be outstanding. They were great last year.

Thank goodness ESPN didn't put Sutcliffe in the Sunday Night booth. He is actually worse than Morgan, by several factors of 10. Utterly unlistenable, though it was always fun to observe when he and Erin Andrews were working the same game to see who could act more unprofessionally.