Feliz, Posey win Rookie of Year honors

[Hank_Scorpio]

AL story:
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20101115&content_id=16099572&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb


NL story:
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20101115&content_id=16099576&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb

 

[Moderator1]

The Rangers did OK in that Teixeira trade with the Braves.

 

[Hank_Scorpio]

I may be biased, but Austin Jackson should have been the AL winner.

But a split of the rookie awards isn't bad.

Feliz wins the writers, Jackson won the Sporting News award.


Both are definitely deserving.

 

[TheSportsPredictor]

Someone left Posey completely off the ballot. Trying to rig it for Hayward?

 

[TheSportsPredictor]

Looks like Hayward was left off a ballot as well. Double rigging?

 

[TheSportsPredictor]

Buster Posey received 20 first-place votes. The guys who finished fourth through ninth received 16 VOTES. Yet someone thinks that one of these people was more deserving of the award than Posey. Another of them thinks that one of these people was more deserving of the award than Hayward.

 

[TheSportsPredictor]

It gets better. Dejan Kovacevic of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette was the only writer to leave Hayward off the ballot. He thinks Neil Walker and Jose Tabata had better years.

Walker: 12 HR, .296/.349/.462, 2 steals
Tabata: 4 HR, .299./.346/.400, 19 steals
Heyward: 18 HR, .273/.393/.456, 11 steals

Walker you could make an argument. It would be a losing argument, especially considering Heyward is 20 and doing the same thing Walker's dong at 24, but you could present a case. Tabata is a joke of a vote.

 

[Guy_Incognito]

SI is not the only one who needs copy editors - from the ESPN story:

In the National League, Giants catcher Buster Posey's 20 first-place votes helped him outpoint Justin Hayward as top rookie.

Player Points 1st-place votes
Buster Posey,
Giants 129 20
Justin Hayward,
Braves 107 9
Jamie Garcia,
Cardinals 24 1

 

[CYowSMR]

Oh my Jesus..

Oh, and I'm a Braves' fanboilooser too...so WE GOT SCREWED again!!!

 

[spnited]

Oh my Jesus..

Oh, and I'm a Braves' fanboilooser too...so WE GOT SCREWED again!!!

Who got screwed? And who is "we"?

 

[outofplace]

It gets better. Dejan Kovacevic of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette was the only writer to leave Hayward off the ballot. He thinks Neil Walker and Jose Tabata had better years.

Walker: 12 HR, .296/.349/.462, 2 steals
Tabata: 4 HR, .299./.346/.400, 19 steals
Heyward: 18 HR, .273/.393/.456, 11 steals

Walker you could make an argument. It would be a losing argument, especially considering Heyward is 20 and doing the same thing Walker's dong at 24, but you could present a case. Tabata is a joke of a vote.

The age of the players is meaningless, but it is an absolute joke to put either of those guys ahead of Heyward.

 

[TheSportsPredictor]

It gets better. Dejan Kovacevic of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette was the only writer to leave Hayward off the ballot. He thinks Neil Walker and Jose Tabata had better years.

Walker: 12 HR, .296/.349/.462, 2 steals
Tabata: 4 HR, .299./.346/.400, 19 steals
Heyward: 18 HR, .273/.393/.456, 11 steals

Walker you could make an argument. It would be a losing argument, especially considering Heyward is 20 and doing the same thing Walker's dong at 24, but you could present a case. Tabata is a joke of a vote.

The age of the players is meaningless, but it is an absolute joke to put either of those guys ahead of Heyward.

If one guy is four years younger doing the same thing, he's got the advantage.

 

[Oz]

It gets better. Dejan Kovacevic of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette was the only writer to leave Hayward off the ballot. He thinks Neil Walker and Jose Tabata had better years.

Walker: 12 HR, .296/.349/.462, 2 steals
Tabata: 4 HR, .299./.346/.400, 19 steals
Heyward: 18 HR, .273/.393/.456, 11 steals

Walker you could make an argument. It would be a losing argument, especially considering Heyward is 20 and doing the same thing Walker's dong at 24, but you could present a case. Tabata is a joke of a vote.

The age of the players is meaningless, but it is an absolute joke to put either of those guys ahead of Heyward.

If one guy is four years younger doing the same thing, he's got the advantage.

And when he did it for the while six months as opposed to only four.

 

[outofplace]

It gets better. Dejan Kovacevic of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette was the only writer to leave Hayward off the ballot. He thinks Neil Walker and Jose Tabata had better years.

Walker: 12 HR, .296/.349/.462, 2 steals
Tabata: 4 HR, .299./.346/.400, 19 steals
Heyward: 18 HR, .273/.393/.456, 11 steals

Walker you could make an argument. It would be a losing argument, especially considering Heyward is 20 and doing the same thing Walker's dong at 24, but you could present a case. Tabata is a joke of a vote.

The age of the players is meaningless, but it is an absolute joke to put either of those guys ahead of Heyward.

If one guy is four years younger doing the same thing, he's got the advantage.

And when he did it for the while six months as opposed to only four.

Which is a legitimate point. The age, however, is meaningless. If the player has rookie eligibility, his age shouldn't matter when considering him for this award. Experience perhaps should (see players coming from Japan, for example), but not age.

 

[JC]

Just shocked there'd be some home cooking for a couple Pirate players. All you have to do is look at this board to see how balnced and fair Pittsburgh fans and reporters can be.

 

[outofplace]

Just shocked there'd be some home cooking for a couple Pirate players. All you have to do is look at this board to see how balnced and fair Pittsburgh fans and reporters can be.

Well, that was an inappropriate little cheap shot. Seriously, one guy fills out a disgrace of a ballot and you're going to take a shot at every reporter in Pittsburgh?

 

[Michael_ Gee]

It is not unheard of, though of course very wrong, for award voters to take one for the team and cast a vote they know won't affect the outcome in order to get a player on the team they cover a smidgen of recognition. It's not like Posey wasn't going to win anyway -- and he should have.

 

[JC]

Just shocked there'd be some home cooking for a couple Pirate players. All you have to do is look at this board to see how balnced and fair Pittsburgh fans and reporters can be.

Well, that was an inappropriate little cheap shot. Seriously, one guy fills out a disgrace of a ballot and you're going to take a shot at every reporter in Pittsburgh?

I think what's cheap is a reporter playing fanboi with his vote.

 

[spnited]

Gotta agreewith OOP here. Do we really need this **** all the time?

The right two guys won the awards. What else really matters?

 

[JC]

Gotta agreewith OOP here. Do we really need this **** all the time?

The right two guys won the awards. What else really matters?

I agree, but how about a reporter doing their job with some integrity.