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Boom_70

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Felt it was worth it's own thread. What a horrible draft night for ESPN. For the company that pioneered televised draft it was a precipitous drop off.

Most of night was unintended comedy.

For almost every pick it seemed like the ESPN team was the last to know.
 
Now the the NFL has its own channel ESPN has been shut out of the Green Room, on-stage interviews and good guests to fill the down time.

That means they have to rely more and more on Berman & Co. at the desk and that is a recipe for utter failure and unintentional hilarity.
 
To me, anyway, it wasn't that they were struggling to fill the down time. They just didn't have any control over their personalities. Kiper didn't talk nearly enough. Young talked way too much. People kept trying to talk over each other. When people disagreed, like Gruden and Kiper clearly did a few times, especially about Wilson, no one was in control to say -- OK you give us your take, Gruden, then you give us your take, Kiper. As a result, it looked like armature hour. It was an orchestra without a conductor.
 
These guys have been talking over each other since they went to a five-man set.

Nobody used to get under Kiper's skin quite like Theismann. Those were halcyon days compared to this.
 
Lee Jackson Beauregard said:
These guys have been talking over each other since they went to a five-man set.

Nobody used to get under Kiper's skin quite like Theismann. Those were halcyon days compared to this.

Dr. Z was the best.
 
Liked when they went to Ed Werder to talk about the Dallas Dez Bryant pick and he talked about the Broncos. The look on Berman's face was classic. Berman mumbled something like Ed we went to you because of your Cowboy knowledge.
 
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Line of the night: Erin Andrews to Jimmy Clausen "How are you holding up?"


Un****ingbelievable... it's not like a family member died, airhead....
 
Yeah, it was horrendous.

I flipped over to NFL Network and was pleased with the coverage.
 
amraeder said:
To me, anyway, it wasn't that they were struggling to fill the down time. They just didn't have any control over their personalities. Kiper didn't talk nearly enough. Young talked way too much. People kept trying to talk over each other. When people disagreed, like Gruden and Kiper clearly did a few times, especially about Wilson, no one was in control to say -- OK you give us your take, Gruden, then you give us your take, Kiper. As a result, it looked like armature hour. It was an orchestra without a conductor.

Berman's supposed to be the traffic cop.

And what was up with that audio mix? They had the ambient noise dialed up to 11.

NFL Network sounded fine.
 
I watched a segment near the last pick of the first round where Tom Jackson and Steve Young literally talked at the same time for nearly 20 seconds each. Neither could decide who was in control, so they kept talking. The camera went to Young, then to Jackson, the panned out. Jackson started pointing and yelling louder so Young started motioning his hands like he was trying to burn as many calories as possible.

At one point Gruden chimmed in so we had three people talking at once. It sounded like when you are playing music, and forget you have a YouTube clip on in the background - you know two things are going on but can't tell what the hell either of them are.

Meanwhile, Mel Kiper, draft guru, is over on the far left face down looking at the desk. Not reading, not studying stats, just looking blankly at the desk. A few seconds later, his head is in his hands just kind of zoning out like he's not on TV or anything.

Not sure what the hell Berman was doing at that point, probably thinking up nicknames for Jahvid Best.
 
Kiper is their meal ticket on this. If you sent him over to NFL and they dropped their "Kiper" ESPN might as well televise the WNBA.

Kiper is damn good and what he does. ESPN has forgotten this.
 
mustangj17 said:
I watched a segment near the last pick of the first round where Tom Jackson and Steve Young literally talked at the same time for nearly 20 seconds each. Neither could decide who was in control, so they kept talking. The camera went to Young, then to Jackson, the panned out. Jackson started pointing and yelling louder so Young started motioning his hands like he was trying to burn as many calories as possible.

At one point Gruden chimmed in so we had three people talking at once. It sounded like when you are playing music, and forget you have a YouTube clip on in the background - you know two things are going on but can't tell what the hell either of them are.

Meanwhile, Mel Kiper, draft guru, is over on the far left face down looking at the desk. Not reading, not studying stats, just looking blankly at the desk. A few seconds later, his head is in his hands just kind of zoning out like he's not on TV or anything.

Not sure what the hell Berman was doing at that point, probably thinking up nicknames for Jahvid Best.

Could they not hear each other?
 
Kinda makes you wonder if ESPN was breaking in a new director last night. It was like the truck had no control over what was happening on the set.
 
And like I complained on the draft thread, couldn't ESPN had not shown the players in the green room with the phones to the teams?

By the time Goodell would make the announcment, everyone knew, and there was no suspense.
 
Baron Scicluna said:
And like I complained on the draft thread, couldn't ESPN had not shown the players in the green room with the phones to the teams?

By the time Goodell would make the announcment, everyone knew, and there was no suspense.

The NFL Network was guilty of that at times too.
 
There was one time ESPN went to a shot of the desk and the talking heads were discussing some team or player - not realizing they were on camera. Then Berman furiously was giving the "cut" sign because he realized they were on the air when they weren't supposed to be. Of course, so he was being shown as well, along with his actions. Then suddenly he stopped and started rambling about something. And boy did he ramble ... I'm told NFLN is available on NFL.com during the draft. Definitely will check that out at work tonight, especially if Berman is out there again for ESPN.
 
93Devil said:
Kiper is their meal ticket on this. If you sent him over to NFL and they dropped their "Kiper" ESPN might as well televise the WNBA.

Kiper is damn good and what he does. ESPN has forgotten this.

Kiper hits .250 on his predictions - in a really good year. You'd do better flipping a coin. How'd he do last night? 7 for 32?
 

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