Dwyane Wade, Ray Allen think NBA players should get paid for Olympics

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93Devil said:
Oh, who would be paying these players? Our tax dollars?
How does your company decide what they pay you?
 
You know what's funny is this is a no-brainer (Devil aside). But, as with the lockout, if the players dare to push this issue the blowback will be so intense that they'll regret they ever did it and it will stand alongside Patrick Ewing's "athletes make a lot of money, but we spend a lot of money" as a symbol of NBA player greed.
 
LongTimeListener said:
You know what's funny is this is a no-brainer (Devil aside). But, as with the lockout, if the players dare to push this issue the blowback will be so intense that they'll regret they ever did it and it will stand alongside Patrick Ewing's "athletes make a lot of money, but we spend a lot of money" as a symbol of NBA player greed.
but you are ****ing with Devils entertainment so it must be an issue.
 
LongTimeListener said:
You know what's funny is this is a no-brainer (Devil aside). But, as with the lockout, if the players dare to push this issue the blowback will be so intense that they'll regret they ever did it and it will stand alongside Patrick Ewing's "athletes make a lot of money, but we spend a lot of money" as a symbol of NBA player greed.

Yep. It makes me want to tear my hair out that, among Americans at large, 93Devil is actually in the majority here, and the sane wing of SportsJournalists.com is in the minority.
 
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I understand what everyone is asking here, but it's really fun to say pay them. What is not fun is fuguring out how.

So how?
 
These ... um ... hmmmm ... um ... how do I put this delicately ... these ... um ... hmmmm ... guys should take their money and be happy with it!

Oh, and ... Michael Phelps!

(Phew, that was a close one!)
 
93Devil said:
I understand what everyone is asking here, but it's really fun to say pay them. What is not fun is fuguring out how.

So how?

Fine. If there's no money to pay them, don't pay them then. Find someone who will play for free. And have fun competing.

Somehow, though, we come up with money to field Olympic teams each Olympiad.
 
LongTimeListener said:
You know what's funny is this is a no-brainer (Devil aside). But, as with the lockout, if the players dare to push this issue the blowback will be so intense that they'll regret they ever did it and it will stand alongside Patrick Ewing's "athletes make a lot of money, but we spend a lot of money" as a symbol of NBA player greed.


Ahhhhh....

Someone sees the consequences.

How many athletes do we send to the Olympics? If you want to give a base salary of $50,000 for the time over there plus a bonus of $100,000 for a bronze, $200,000 for a silver and $500,000 for a gold, that could work.

Having them negotiate just to play is a terrible, terrible idea that stinks of greed.
 
MisterCreosote said:
Double Down said:
Devil, let's say someone payed a billion dollars form the rights to SJ. And SJ got this billion by promoting and selling copies of your posts. You were a big part of the appeal, let's say. And when the SJ I overlords responded to your inquires about their obscene profits by saying "Well, this will just raise your profile. We get a billion and your get to be more-widely known. It's up to you from there."

I think SJ should start selling copies of my posts. Those will pay the bills for the next 20 years! ;D

Sorry, but we've outsourced your posts to Versatile and Care Bear.
 
93Devil said:
LongTimeListener said:
You know what's funny is this is a no-brainer (Devil aside). But, as with the lockout, if the players dare to push this issue the blowback will be so intense that they'll regret they ever did it and it will stand alongside Patrick Ewing's "athletes make a lot of money, but we spend a lot of money" as a symbol of NBA player greed.


Ahhhhh....

Someone sees the consequences.

How many athletes do we send to the Olympics? If you want to give a base salary of $50,000 for the time over there plus a bonus of $100,000 for a bronze, $200,000 for a silver and $500,000 for a gold, that could work.

Having them negotiate just to play Expecting world-class athletes to play for free while NBC and the IOC are enriched immeasurably as a result is a terrible, terrible idea that stinks of greed.

Fixed
 
93Devil said:
LongTimeListener said:
You know what's funny is this is a no-brainer (Devil aside). But, as with the lockout, if the players dare to push this issue the blowback will be so intense that they'll regret they ever did it and it will stand alongside Patrick Ewing's "athletes make a lot of money, but we spend a lot of money" as a symbol of NBA player greed.


Ahhhhh....

Someone sees the consequences.

How many athletes do we send to the Olympics? If you want to give a base salary of $50,000 for the time over there plus a bonus of $100,000 for a bronze, $200,000 for a silver and $500,000 for a gold, that could work.

Having them negotiate just to play is a terrible, terrible idea that stinks of greed.

Negotiating fair compensation for services "stinks of greed?" Really? Here in America? Home office of capitalism and free enterprise? Really?
 
Devil,

Over and over in this issue, your argument can be boiled down to "This is going to be sooooo hard to figure out how to do, so we should just keep the current model. (Or in the NBA/College hoops age limit debate, tweak the rules so they further shift diminish the power of labor.)

A lot of **** in life is hard. That isn't a reason to not attempt to do what is just.

Currently, there is a pie of money generated by the broadcast of the Olympics. The value of this pie is = X.

NBC and the IOC current get 100 percent of X. (It's probably not quite 100 percent, but for the sake of this argument let's say ion terms of pure profit after overhead and charity donations and whatever sliver the USOC gets + whatever, it's 100 percent.)

What argument can you make, other than "It's too hard!" that would explain why athletes don't deserve a percentage of X?
 
Double Down said:
Devil,

Over and over in this issue, your argument can be boiled down to "This is going to be sooooo hard to figure out how to do, so we should just keep the current model. (Or in the NBA/College hoops age limit debate, tweak the rules so they further shift diminish the power of labor.)

A lot of **** in life is hard. That isn't a reason to not attempt to do what is just.

Currently, there is a pie of money generated by the broadcast of the Olympics. The value of this pie is = X.

NBC and the IOC current get 100 percent of X. (It's probably not quite 100 percent, but for the sake of this argument let's say ion terms of pure profit after overhead and charity donations and whatever sliver the USOC gets + whatever, it's 100 percent.)

What argument can you make, other than "It's too hard!" that would explain why athletes don't deserve a percentage of X?
His reasoning, just like in the age restriction thread is purely selfish. It wil **** with his entertainment. I just wish he'd be honest about it.
 
JC said:
Double Down said:
Devil,

Over and over in this issue, your argument can be boiled down to "This is going to be sooooo hard to figure out how to do, so we should just keep the current model. (Or in the NBA/College hoops age limit debate, tweak the rules so they further shift diminish the power of labor.)

A lot of **** in life is hard. That isn't a reason to not attempt to do what is just.

Currently, there is a pie of money generated by the broadcast of the Olympics. The value of this pie is = X.

NBC and the IOC current get 100 percent of X. (It's probably not quite 100 percent, but for the sake of this argument let's say ion terms of pure profit after overhead and charity donations and whatever sliver the USOC gets + whatever, it's 100 percent.)

What argument can you make, other than "It's too hard!" that would explain why athletes don't deserve a percentage of X?
His reasoning, just like in the age restriction thread is purely selfish. It wil **** with his entertainment. I just wish he'd be honest about it.

I am selfish, but it is OK for Wade to ask for more than what he already makes from the NBA and endorsements?

If this is such a great idea, see if it actually happens.
 

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