Dwyane Wade, Ray Allen think NBA players should get paid for Olympics

[LongTimeListener]

First-page Nazi references are my favorite. Makes for thread gold.

 

[Dick Whitman]

Devil, let's say someone payed a billion dollars form the rights to SJ. And SJ got this billion by promoting and selling copies of your posts. You were a big part of the appeal, let's say. And when the SJ I overlords responded to your inquires about their obscene profits by saying "Well, this will just raise your profile. We get a billion and your get to be more-widely known. It's up to you from there."

How would that make you feel?

The Olympics, much like the NCAA, is not what it once was. It's a business. Much like the Ryder Cup. Someone gets paid a huge amount of money. For the life of me, I can't understand why you want it to be a huge corrupt organization and want the labor to continue to be free just because it's always been that way.

If I was making $10 mil a season, like these guys, I would not give a ****.

I would feel much better about paying the third best fencer we have than these guys.

Well, at least we've got it on the table now. These ... hmmmm ... um ... hmmmm ... how do I put this ... guys should take what their benevolent corporate overlords have given them to this point and be happy with it.

Every morning, I get to hear truck drivers and pipe fitters call talk radio and ***** about how they make $20 an hour and Running Back A should be grateful to make the money he makes.

I come here to escape that b.s.

 

[LongTimeListener]

Devil, let's say someone payed a billion dollars form the rights to SJ. And SJ got this billion by promoting and selling copies of your posts. You were a big part of the appeal, let's say. And when the SJ I overlords responded to your inquires about their obscene profits by saying "Well, this will just raise your profile. We get a billion and your get to be more-widely known. It's up to you from there."

How would that make you feel?

But enough about Huffington Post.

 

[Dick Whitman]

First-page Nazi references are my favorite. Makes for thread gold.

That's slavery and the Holocaust in a few days. I'm going to work 9/11 into a thread soon and capture the triple crown.

 

[93Devil]

Now here is the next question since everyone here wants to pay them.

How much? Does Wade sit out because he wants $2.0 mil but is only getting $1.5? Does he show up for $100,000?

Where is the line drawn at who to pay and who not to pay?

 

[Dick Whitman]

Now here is the next question since everyone here wants to pay them.

How much? Does Wade sit out because he wants $2.0 mil but is only getting $1.5? Does he show up for $100,000?

Where is the line drawn at who to pay and who not to pay?

Same as it is in every job.

Who has leverage?

 

[93Devil]

Have fun writing all the Olympic negotiation stories. They will be riveting.

 

[93Devil]

Now here is the next question since everyone here wants to pay them.

How much? Does Wade sit out because he wants $2.0 mil but is only getting $1.5? Does he show up for $100,000?

Where is the line drawn at who to pay and who not to pay?

Same as it is in every job.

Who has leverage?

Answer the question.

Paying the players has created a potential problem. Start throwing out some numbers.

 

[Dick Whitman]

Have fun writing all the Olympic negotiation stories. They will be riveting.

This is a really great reason to deny them pay.

Because it will make your job more difficult.

 

[Dick Whitman]

Now here is the next question since everyone here wants to pay them.

How much? Does Wade sit out because he wants $2.0 mil but is only getting $1.5? Does he show up for $100,000?

Where is the line drawn at who to pay and who not to pay?

Same as it is in every job.

Who has leverage?

Answer the question.

Paying the players has created a potential problem. Start throwing out some numbers.

Asked and answered.

He should be paid what he can get through negotiation.

 

[cranberry]

You figure it out in a very similar way to the way, say, NBC and the IOC decide rights fees -- you negotiate.

 

[LongTimeListener]

Have fun writing all the Olympic negotiation stories. They will be riveting.

Yeah that has never happened before. I distinctly remember all the stories that weren't written about the non-issue of whether Michael Jordan would show the Reebok-sponsored Olympic logo. But he solved the problem by literally draping himself in the American flag, so he wasn't greedy. I miss the purity of those days.

 

[Azrael]

Interesting debate.

As was said, they're already compensated if they medal. They aren't salaried - but what salary could USOC possibly offer proportionate to what they earn in the NBA?

They should get a cut of merchandising, certainly. The Olympics, as has also been said, generates many, many billions in revenue.

Athletes in other countries in a wide range of sports - high and low-visibility - already draw a wage from their governments, so the amateurism argument is moot. And probably always has been.

Back in 1996, Roger Angell made a very good argument that the Dream Team represented a kind of "true" amateurism - in that everyone on the team already made so much money, that money couldn't possibly matter to them any more. They played instead for patriotism or passion or some unquantifiable inner purpose.

Which meant that they had become exactly like the Victorian aristocracy upon whose Gilded Age notions of honor and money the modern Olympics were built.

 

[93Devil]

Not my job.

I cannot wait until Bolt and Phelps demand $10 mil each to participate in the Olympics.

 

[JC]

Now here is the next question since everyone here wants to pay them.

How much? Does Wade sit out because he wants $2.0 mil but is only getting $1.5? Does he show up for $100,000?

Where is the line drawn at who to pay and who not to pay?

Same as it is in every job.

Who has leverage?

Answer the question.

Paying the players has created a potential problem. Start throwing out some numbers.

You of all people asking someone to answer a question, now that is rich.

Without knowing the figures you can't throw out numbers.

 

[93Devil]

Now here is the next question since everyone here wants to pay them.

How much? Does Wade sit out because he wants $2.0 mil but is only getting $1.5? Does he show up for $100,000?

Where is the line drawn at who to pay and who not to pay?

Same as it is in every job.

Who has leverage?

Answer the question.

Paying the players has created a potential problem. Start throwing out some numbers.

Asked and answered.

He should be paid what he can get through negotiation.

Numbers

 

[Dick Whitman]

Waitresses shouldn't get paid.

Because how would we know how much to pay them?

 

[JC]

Not my job.

I cannot wait until Bolt and Phelps demand $10 mil each to participate in the Olympics.

You simply don't get it.

 

[Dick Whitman]

Not my job.

I cannot wait until Bolt and Phelps demand $10 mil each to participate in the Olympics.

Good for Bolt and Phelps.

 

[Dick Whitman]

Truck drivers shouldn't get paid.

How would we know how much to pay them?