dwayne jarrett, fraud???

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shockey said:
if he becomes a star, no doubt, he'll more than make up the money. but if he's mike williams redux. that 40 time will have cost him a couple of mil forever. the streets are littered with top 10 duds who can survive a loooong time on that first signing bonus. that's the point here.

Are you saying Mike Williams slipped b/c of a bad 40 time? Or are you saying Jarrett will become like Williams and hardly if ever touch the field? Williams slipped primarily b/c he missed a whole year of football, not b/c of a terrible 40 time. And since when is a 40 time of 4.62 or 4.67 for a guy who is 6-3, 230 terrible? Nobody expected him to run a 4.3 or a 4.4. People even though he'd be slower than what he ran. In my eyes that helps his stock.
 
melock said:
shockey said:
if he becomes a star, no doubt, he'll more than make up the money. but if he's mike williams redux. that 40 time will have cost him a couple of mil forever. the streets are littered with top 10 duds who can survive a loooong time on that first signing bonus. that's the point here.

Are you saying Mike Williams slipped b/c of a bad 40 time? Or are you saying Jarrett will become like Williams and hardly if ever touch the field? Williams slipped primarily b/c he missed a whole year of football, not b/c of a terrible 40 time. And since when is a 40 time of 4.62 or 4.67 for a guy who is 6-3, 230 terrible? Nobody expected him to run a 4.3 or a 4.4. People even though he'd be slower than what he ran. In my eyes that helps his stock.

40 times are important for wideouts 'cause it is a measurable gms and personnel guys use to rate a prospect's, well, prospects. it's not as if jarrett won't be taken relatively high. but it darn well will impact on how high he goes. and even if it means ge "slips" to the 20-25 range, that's a lot of money lost compared to a top 10 guy.

hey, for all anyone knows, maybe he'll be better than calvin johnson. but if anyone thinks running the low 4.6s as opposed to johnson's sub-4.4 won't cost jarrett some green, you don't know the drill.

p.s. -- the mike williams comparison, valid or not, makes nfl types wonder if it's the system or the player. it's just part of the paralysis through over-analysis that goes on.
 
For anyone who is curious Sydney Rice from the other USC is getting a bit of flack for not redoing his 40 from the Combine (4.55) during his pro day.
I really just don't think these guys care unless they are being labeled as one of the burners.
 
I mean everyone knows how fast you runs in shorts and t-shirt means the world when you strap on the pads. Come on! There's 40 speed and there's football speed. Jerry Rice didn't have 40 speed, but there weren't many that could cover him no matter what routes he ran. I'm not saying you can run a 5.0 40 as a WR and be good, but 4.4 and 4.6 isn't nearly as big of a deal as people make it out to be.
 
Obviously this will hurt his draft stock a lot, but wasn't it Jarrett who was burning Michigan DB Leon Hall (the best corner in the draft) during the bowls?

If I'm picking late in the first, I'd take a chance on the guy...
 
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Piotr Rasputin said:
Mizzougrad96 said:
If I'm picking late in the first, I'd take a chance on the guy...

If you're picking late in the first, it's a slam-dunk pick. No need to take a chance. Dude has undeniable playmaking ability.

Exactly. 40 times are way overrated. Like said earlier Jarrett ate up Hall in the Rose Bowl. If that guy goes top 10 what does that say about Jarrett. If he lasts until the end of the first round someone is going to get a major steal.
 
Mizzougrad96 said:
Obviously this will hurt his draft stock a lot, but wasn't it Jarrett who was burning Michigan DB Leon Hall (the best corner in the draft) during the bowls?

If I'm picking late in the first, I'd take a chance on the guy...

I would, too. But with so many good receivers in the draft this year, it's a bad year to run that time. That will cost him money. Won't matter how much he's making when he shows up in camp, but this almost has to hurt his wallet.
 
Jarrett and VY could be lethal together. I'm sure he wants to come too. Having Jeff Fischer as your coach? Vince Young as your quarterback? Baby Blue Unis? What more could you ask for?
 
Mizzougrad96 said:
Obviously this will hurt his draft stock a lot, but wasn't it Jarrett who was burning Michigan DB Leon Hall (the best corner in the draft) during the bowls?

If I'm picking late in the first, I'd take a chance on the guy...
Oh let's hope the lions grab him... you can never have enough receivers with potential
 
Chuck~Taylor said:
Jarrett and VY could be lethal together. I'm sure he wants to come too. Having Jeff Fischer as your coach? Vince Young as your quarterback? Baby Blue Unis? What more could you ask for?

This looser fanboy wouldn't mind seeing VY to Meachem — 6-3, 210, 4.36 40, all-time single season yardage leader at Tennessee (where a lot of great college wideouts have played).
 

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