Does homeschooling violate liberal values?

[LongTimeListener]

Keep in mind that like anything else, homeschooling can be done for the right reasons and the wrong reasons. We've had friends who did it to shelter their kids from everything. We've had others who used it as a means to expose their kids to practically everything under the sun. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a lot of in-between.

I'm glad to see it hasn't come up much on this thread, but the people who bring up socialization are what drive me nuts. My wife homeschooled our son for preschool and planned to keep going. But a temporary job came up for a boss she couldn't say no to and we put our son in the public school for a semester of kindergarten. On the first day, the teacher says she had to get on to him for talking and we need to work on that.

Go figure, my homeschooled kid got in trouble at a public school all semester for being too social. Now, we're back to homeschooling.

I don't think your son got in trouble for "being too social." It sounds like he got in trouble for being disruptive and not understanding when it was time to listen to someone else. But sure, yeah, that isn't anything that will come up later in life.

 

[Dick Whitman]

We couldn't bring in anything homemade to my boys' grade school. Everything had to be packaged, no sugary drinks, and nothing with peanuts.

i can certainly understand the peanut ban

I still think the daycares would rather let the kids play russian roulette than let a PB&J be served.

Our daughter's MDO doesn't have a problem with them as long as nobody in the class has an allergy.

And ****, we do the organic milk thing too.

On another thread the other day, Alma accused me of being rich. He didn't realize we buy organic milk, obviously. There is no faster route to the poorhouse.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

We couldn't bring in anything homemade to my boys' grade school. Everything had to be packaged, no sugary drinks, and nothing with peanuts.

i can certainly understand the peanut ban

I still think the daycares would rather let the kids play russian roulette than let a PB&J be served.

Our daughter's MDO doesn't have a problem with them as long as nobody in the class has an allergy.

And ****, we do the organic milk thing too.

On another thread the other day, Alma accused me of being rich. He didn't realize we buy organic milk, obviously. There is no faster route to the poorhouse.

I saw some comedian who said that loosely translated, "Organic" means three times the price...

We're certainly not poor, but we're not going to pay $6 for a half gallon of milk either... That's not a shot at **** either...

 

[Dick Whitman]

We couldn't bring in anything homemade to my boys' grade school. Everything had to be packaged, no sugary drinks, and nothing with peanuts.

i can certainly understand the peanut ban

I still think the daycares would rather let the kids play russian roulette than let a PB&J be served.

Our daughter's MDO doesn't have a problem with them as long as nobody in the class has an allergy.

And ****, we do the organic milk thing too.

On another thread the other day, Alma accused me of being rich. He didn't realize we buy organic milk, obviously. There is no faster route to the poorhouse.

I saw some comedian who said that loosely translated, "Organic" means three times the price...

We're certainly not poor, but we're not going to pay $6 for a half gallon of milk either... That's not a shot at **** either...

Shoot away. I am not in favor of it, either. I have been overruled.

 

[Iron_chet]

Slight threadjack...We buy nothing but organic milk and eggs and try with a lot of produce to buy organic. I figure I have dumped a life time of chemicals into my body but if I can have the kids a little less exposed than it is worth the effort.

A 4 litre of organic milk up here costs about $9. Dozen eggs is around $6.

FWIW I have had my father in law tell me that our eggs "taste like eggs used to taste". I can notice a bit of a flavor difference in some brands of apples.

I figure I **** enough money away on stupid things that to fork out for some organic products is worth it. The meat however is still way to expensive.

 

[93Devil]

Will anyone homeschool so their children do not have to learn hippy terms like "litre?"

Chet, I may have a cow butchered. That actually is cheaper than buying meat in the store.

 

[Inky_Wretch]

We couldn't bring in anything homemade to my boys' grade school. Everything had to be packaged, no sugary drinks, and nothing with peanuts.

i can certainly understand the peanut ban

I still think the daycares would rather let the kids play russian roulette than let a PB&J be served.

Our daughter's MDO doesn't have a problem with them as long as nobody in the class has an allergy.

And ****, we do the organic milk thing too.

On another thread the other day, Alma accused me of being rich. He didn't realize we buy organic milk, obviously. There is no faster route to the poorhouse.

I saw some comedian who said that loosely translated, "Organic" means three times the price...

We're certainly not poor, but we're not going to pay $6 for a half gallon of milk either... That's not a shot at **** either...

Shoot away. I am not in favor of it, either. I have been overruled.

I am in favor of it for my daughter. I just don't want her exposed to all the chemicals ingested by the typical dairy cow.

 

[outofplace]

Keep in mind that like anything else, homeschooling can be done for the right reasons and the wrong reasons. We've had friends who did it to shelter their kids from everything. We've had others who used it as a means to expose their kids to practically everything under the sun. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a lot of in-between.

I'm glad to see it hasn't come up much on this thread, but the people who bring up socialization are what drive me nuts. My wife homeschooled our son for preschool and planned to keep going. But a temporary job came up for a boss she couldn't say no to and we put our son in the public school for a semester of kindergarten. On the first day, the teacher says she had to get on to him for talking and we need to work on that.

Go figure, my homeschooled kid got in trouble at a public school all semester for being too social. Now, we're back to homeschooling.

I don't think your son got in trouble for "being too social." It sounds like he got in trouble for being disruptive and not understanding when it was time to listen to someone else. But sure, yeah, that isn't anything that will come up later in life.

Well put. So the kid doesn't know how to behave in a classroom setting and that is somehow evidence that partain is doing the right thing by home schooling?

To be clear, I'm not arguing the choice. It's his (or her) kid. But that is a silly argument.

 

[YGBFKM]

That's asinine. All but about 5 kids in the history of the world have gotten in trouble for talking and the like at some point in their young lives. Their kids; they're generally a disruptive bunch. But maybe you two are right and blaming a poster for not raising his child correctly is the way to go.

 

[RickStain]

That's asinine. All but about 5 kids in the history of the world have gotten in trouble for talking and the like at some point in their young lives. Their kids; they're generally a disruptive bunch. But maybe you two are right and blaming a poster for not raising his child correctly is the way to go.

That's not what happened.

They are mocking the poster for being the type of parent who, upon being faced with constructive criticism of their child, figures out a way to interpret it so that the teacher is wrong and there is no problem with the kid that needs to be addressed.

 

[LongTimeListener]

That's asinine. All but about 5 kids in the history of the world have gotten in trouble for talking and the like at some point in their young lives. Their kids; they're generally a disruptive bunch. But maybe you two are right and blaming a poster for not raising his child correctly is the way to go.

I am going under the assumption that it was something more than "talking" or the teacher wouldn't be bringing it up. His overreaction, pulling his child out of school entirely, would lead me further to believe we aren't getting the full story.

EDIT: Also, what Rick said.

 

[YGBFKM]

Well, teachers are pretty dumb.

 

[outofplace]

That's asinine. All but about 5 kids in the history of the world have gotten in trouble for talking and the like at some point in their young lives. Their kids; they're generally a disruptive bunch. But maybe you two are right and blaming a poster for not raising his child correctly is the way to go.

That's not what happened.

They are mocking the poster for being the type of parent who, upon being faced with constructive criticism of their child, figures out a way to interpret it so that the teacher is wrong and there is no problem with the kid that needs to be addressed.

Exactly, but YGBFKM is determined to display his usual trolling techniques and foolishness. And that post calling teachers dumb, knowing what happened on the other recent thread about education, is blatant trolling.

Cue YGBFKM whining about how he was only kidding.

 

[Yodel]

That's asinine. All but about 5 kids in the history of the world have gotten in trouble for talking and the like at some point in their young lives. Their kids; they're generally a disruptive bunch. But maybe you two are right and blaming a poster for not raising his child correctly is the way to go.

I am going under the assumption that it was something more than "talking" or the teacher wouldn't be bringing it up. His overreaction, pulling his child out of school entirely, would lead me further to believe we aren't getting the full story.

EDIT: Also, what Rick said.

He never said he took the child out because the teacher got onto him. He said the move to public school was because of a "temporary job." I read it as the move back to home school was already planned.

 

[Dick Whitman]

Well, teachers are pretty dumb.

Kids are dumber, though.

 

[crimsonace]

Well, teachers are pretty dumb.

Hey, now. You're getting close to home .

 

[crimsonace]

Then why the hell do people talk about liberal and conservative values so much?

At both extremes, it's about someone telling you what to do. For kicks and giggles, where is the discussion on anarchism?

Come join us in the Libertarian corner. Of course, most of them distrust government so much, they homeschool, too (me, being a Libertarian public employee, is a *real* anomaly).

 

[93Devil]

 

[Ben_Hecht]

The trouble can come when parents wind up very-carefully teaching their kids how to be stupid (which happens 'way too often). The other primary problem can be when overzealous isolation can make a youngster fatally-unequipped to deal with real, public life. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

 

[TheSportsPredictor]

That's asinine. All but about 5 kids in the history of the world have gotten in trouble for talking and the like at some point in their young lives. Their kids; they're generally a disruptive bunch. But maybe you two are right and blaming a poster for not raising his child correctly is the way to go.

That's not what happened.

They are mocking the poster for being the type of parent who, upon being faced with constructive criticism of their child, figures out a way to interpret it so that the teacher is wrong and there is no problem with the kid that needs to be addressed.

Exactly, but YGBFKM is determined to display his usual trolling techniques and foolishness. And that post calling teachers dumb, knowing what happened on the other recent thread about education, is blatant trolling.

Cue YGBFKM whining about how he was only kidding.

Maybe they aren't dumb, but it's a known fact they have pretty much the lowest IQs of any profession.